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Non-SBR with pinned handguard?

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by IslandTimes, Feb 3, 2013.

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  1. IslandTimes

    IslandTimes Member

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    Heard a rumor a while back that the ATF sent a letter to some company saying that if an AR handguard is made non removable, that the handguard would count towards barrel length. My thoughts on this are I could pin and weld an extra long free float handguard to a 9mm AR with a 7" barrel and not have an SBR.

    Went ahead and sent a letter to the ATF asking for clarification, but has anyone else heard of this?
     
  2. rjrivero

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    No. But a permanently attached muzzle device counts toward the length of a barrel. I presume it would be the same thing.

    This is a 16.25" upper with the suppressor under the "permanently attached muzzle device" the overall length of the "barrel" becomes 17". So this is NOT an SBR.

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    My opinion --A free-float handguard is not attached to the barrel, and so (unlike a permanently-attached muzzle device) is not added to the barrel length to meet the legal definition of a 16"+ barrel. But what would be the point of this anyway? You might as well get the benefit of the longer barrel.
     
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    Rjrivero has it down, I was looking for a solution so I could attach a can without the gun being too long. And I'm really liking that setup, where/how did you get that done?
     
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    rj is an artist.

    Tactical Solutions did something similar for the 10/22 with an extended piece on the barrel that encloses most of the suppressor length when it is mounted. With the suppressor off the barrel, the length is still retained. So a 10" barrel under the 6" 'shroud' is still 16", with or without the can. If the can is 6" long, it doesn't make the barrel longer when mounted.
     
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    Yes, but these extensions are pinned to the barrel while the OP's free-float handguard would presumably be pinned to the receiver.
     
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    I work part time at Adco Firearms. This is one of my projects. I don't know if there is enough demand to put this in the Shop Services Standard catalog, but it's a lot of fun to play with!
     
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