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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by sigmaman, Nov 18, 2004.

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  1. sigmaman

    sigmaman member

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    i want to reload .40
    i dont want to spend that much money
    any suggestions on a press kit
    bullets and powder?
    i just want to reload for target shooting
     
  2. MAUSER88

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    To do it right you going to have to spend a bit. The Lee Anniversary kit is a waste of money to me. Go for the RCBS Rock Chucker kit. About $275.00 buys everything you need to get started.
     
  3. Dave R

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    And now, for an opposing viewpoint...

    I don't have a Lee Anniversary Kit, but I know several folks who do, and they were pleased with the quality of the kit. Its not top-notch stuff, but all the pieces work. Several folks have upgraded some of the components later (press, scale, etc.) but still use the Lee stuff for lower volume or special applications.

    I believe the Lee Anniversary Kit runs $89 at www.midwayusa.com.

    I got into reloading piecemeal, buying used equipment. I believe I spent a bit more than I would've buying an Anniversary kit, and the stuff I have is probably not any better.

    I don't know anyone who bought an Anniversary Kit and was unhappy with it.
     
  4. Austin Charles

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    If you want to get into reloading. Then your best bet is the Lee Anniversary kit.
    It has everything to get you started.(except for the dies and Powder +/- another $40.00) Just a good reloading book can coast up to $30.00 alone, where the kit comes with a pretty good book.

    I would add a powder trickler


    You might hate it and decide that the time and money is not worth it for how much you shoot. If you decide it's for you then you can alway's upgrade slowly.

    Everyone has something bad to say about Lee but most people started w/ Lee.
     
  5. Black Snowman

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    Aniversary kit + Hornady dies + calipers + components is my standard recommendation. Even if you end up with 5 Dillion XL1050s down the road you'll still use most of the Lee equipment on occasion and have already gotten your money out of it several times over.

    Edit: Here's a little spreadsheet I made up for a friend wanting to know what I would recommend for a minimum investment setup and a progressive setup for 3 calibers he wanted to load for. All prices are from MidwayUSA.com and BrianEnos.com

    Need for either option
    Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension Nitride 3-Die Set 9mm Luger $31.99
    Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension Nitride 3-Die Set 45 ACP $31.99
    Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension Nitride 3-Die Set 38 Special and 357 Magnum $31.99
    Frankford Arsenal Stainless Steel Dial Caliper Standard $16.99

    subtotal $112.96

    Minimum Retail
    Lee Anniversary Reloading Kit with "Modern Reloading" Manual $77.99
    Lee Universal Shellholders Set of 11 $12.99

    subtotal $90.98

    Progressive
    Dillon XL 650 Reloading Press w/ Dies $459.95
    be.com's "As It Should Be" Upgrade $97.79
    Caliber conversions for remainig 2 calibers $131.90
    Toolhead kits fro 2 remaining calibers $51.78
    Lee Safety Powder Scale (or better) $18.98
    subtotal $760.40

    Lee Single stage total $183.67
    Dillon progressive total $862.13
     
  6. sigmaman

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    i really appreciate the viewpoints

    i was looking at the lee anniversary kit
    i only have one caliber to load and i may be shootin 150- 300 rounds a week
    if i could reduce the ammo costs then the range fees are affordable too

    right now were looking at 10 range fee 15.00 winchester white box
    thats 25.00
    i print my own targets so if i could save 10 bucks that would be way cool

    and the lee anniversary looked like a good deal but i thought maybe it was inadequate now i have some useful thought out opinions
    thanks again
     
  7. Valkman

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    I know I don't know alot, but it seems to me a single-stage press would get real old in a hurry. Myself, I'd take the Dillon deal, buy once and not worry about it again - oh wait I did that but with a 550. Never regretted it either.
     
  8. Austin Charles

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    I agree, if you KNOW that your going to shoot few thousand rounds a week and you have the money. By all means go buy the Dillon.

    If you want to get your feet wet and make sure that your going to enjoy and save from reloading, then I would stick with my statement of starting with a Lee kit. If all you want is a few hunderd rounds a week for a handgun and are loading for hunting. Than a single stage press will do you fine.

    You will still end up using over half the stuff from the kit.

    Like I said you will have to buy a powder trickler and how I forgot a good set of calibers, and a few more odds and ends.

    With all the extras and the dies and powder you'll have to buy on top of the kit. It gets expensive.

    If you get into it, you Will end up upgrading. But why invest all that into something you might not like or need unless your just really rich. Then I would be putting my money into the stock market right now. This will get you a much bigger return than a few bullets.
     
  9. halvey

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    You can get the 550 and be cheaper than $862. When I got my Dillon I spent around $500 and was ready to go. I can't imagine loading pistol one step at a time. I'd be so bored...

    That said, if you shoot or ever shoot *precision* rifle, you will want a single stage. If you are an AR guy and just like putting bullets down range, the Dillon can do that too.

    And a side note: Skip the .40, get a .45 and reduce your charges in your .45's to .40 levels. I ditched all my pistol calibers once I got a reloader and just stuck with the .45.
     
  10. Smokey Joe

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    I sound like a broken record, but..

    Well, I've said it before but I'll say it again. Study up FIRST. Then buy stuff.

    Buy and read The ABC's of Reloading published by Krause, and/or the NRA Reloading Handbook. Then get yourself a reloading manual, and by gosh read that. If you only get one, get Lyman's 48th edition. But more manuals give you more information, and one manual can't cover all possible combinations of powder/bullet.

    Anyhow, after all that reading--which should be pleasurable, anyhow, you should have a much better idea of exactly what YOU want/need, as well as how to use it well and safely.

    But knowledge is power, my friend. You want to know what you're getting into. An informed consumer is a happy consumer.

    Anyhow, welcome to the world of reloading. It can be just as simple or just as complicated as you choose to make it for yourself.
     
  11. Richard.Howe

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    Sigma, FWIW, my experience was just like yours.

    I started out "just" wanting to load 45 ACP for my family of 1911s, so I bought the RCBS Supreme Rockchucker Kit. A bit overkill? Yes, but knowing that I'd use the extra equipment, someday, it made sense. That was just about this time last year.

    Today I load a lot more than 45, and to be honest, it's the handgun chamberings I like to reload least. It's boring and monotonous...at least to me. I much rather enjoy loading rifle rounds where each bullet is "hand crafted" instead of being one of 500. The Rockchucker is perfect for this kind of application.

    I'm seriously looking at getting into a progressive for pistol rounds. I just find that I wind up heading to Wal Mart to buy Winclean for my range sessions rather than spend a couple hours making ammo per range visit.

    Have a great day,
    Rich
     
  12. al391-dan

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    just go out and order the dillon rl550b and that will last a lifetime my uncle has had his for a while and has reloaded over 60,000 rounds or more. Make the purchase and you will not regret it.
     
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