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Norinco M1A?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by 45Badger, Mar 10, 2007.

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  1. 45Badger

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    Stopped in the local pawn shop, and they had a M1A for $749.

    Tag said Norinco. I didn't know Norinco made M1As (could it be a Polytech?). The metal seemed in very good shape. The stock was a total bubba's POS (but I've got a BEAUTIFUL USGI walnut stock waiting for a new gun at home).

    Any thoughts on the gun and value?
     
  2. BADUNAME13

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    That's about what they go for nowadays... not worthit IMHO.
    Others disagree...
     
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    I had one a long time ago. I didn't pay that much for I know but it shot quite well even with the copper washed chinese ammo. I probably should have kept it. that has been at least 15 years ago
     
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    "...didn't know Norinco made M1As..." They didn't and don't. The shop likely put that on because lots of people have never heard of Norinco. Norinco's name for their copy is the M-14S or M305.
    Up here, when they're in stock, M305's retail at $399Cdn. Mind you, Marstar has been sold out for over a year.
     
  6. 45Badger

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    I've got 2 Springfields (one pre- and one post-ban) and that extra pretty stock that was lonely. I guess it's better left lonely than to put a crappy gun in it:)
     
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    norcs are not crappy guns. they are commie guns. think of them as advanced sks rifles.

    that said they are way overpriced. note marstar prices.
     
  8. vanfunk

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    Wow! I thought this thread would be full of "buy it now:)! recommendations.

    As has been stated, the Norinco M-14s is not an M1A. The term "M1A" is a proprietary title given by Springfield Armory, Inc. to their M-14 pattern rifle. The Norincos and Polytechs are not M1As, but they are M-14 pattern rifles as well. The Chinese guns are well made though generally crudely finished by western standards. The receivers are uniformally excellent and are forged and in-spec. The barrels are chrome lined and are generally as accurate as USGI chrome lined barrels. The only real area of concern (assuming the rifle in question hasn't been monkeyed with) is that the bolts on these rifles can be soft, leading to headspace issues over time. Usually a USGI bolt is not a drop in replacement, but many smiths offer conversion work. The bolt may or may not be soft; you can either test it and see or shoot it for awhile and test headspace. Many incorrectly assume these rifles are unsafe to fire from the factory after seeing the bolt close on a .308 NO GO guage, apparently not understanding that these rifles are chambered for 7.62 NATO, not .308 Winchester. $750 is a great price for a Norinco m-14s in the US, assuming it is in original configuration. Buy it!:)

    vanfunk
     
  9. Surplussoldier

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    I believe most Chinese M-1A copies in the U.S. are of Polytech manufacture, but I am not sure. Here in Canada, as mentioned above, we have Norinco M-305/M14-S rifles, which do not have soft bolts, as far as I know.

    The stocks are, as you say, garbage. We replace them with USGI Fibreglass stocks (though they are getting more and more expensive because of import difficulties) as well as aftermarket wood and fancy SAGE / JAE-100 type stocks. They are fully compatible with USGI parts, and serious competitors upgrade them to match status for less than it would cost to do with a comparable Springfield.

    For $400 CDN they are not bad, but for $750 US, I would buy a Springfield (assuming a Springfield costs about $1250 US. If the Springfield is $1500 or more, it may be better to stick with the Chinese M1A copy.) Mine shoots 2.5 MOA right now, using surplus ammo, and is probably capable of better with a more experienced shooter and better ammo. Reliability is fine as long as your mags are seated properly. The dislikes I have about the Chinese copies are: 1. that the gas cylinder is not chromed, while the USGI is. 2. The barrels are not indexed properly sometimes, and the front sights are therefore not at 90 degrees, sometimes. 3. Rear sight assemblies are sometimes loose, and the peep sight is sometimes crude in manufacture. Some people replaces theirs with M1 Garand or M1A match rear sight assemblies. 4. The stock is crap.

    Otherwise, the receiver is fine, the barrel is fine, trigger is nice and crisp, mechanically it is completely sound. It is just those other parts that often need replacing, IMHO. I would say most Chinese M1As are "fixer uppers" ranging from minor (just replace the stock and rear sight) to more serious (as in the case of some reported Polytechs).
     
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    Ditto above, if it was $400-$500 I'd say BUY IT.
    (Kicking myself for not buying one a few years back for $450... I was holding out for $400)

    But at those prices... save a little more and get a Springfield.
     
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    45Badger,
    If you're going to pass on this one, would you mind pm'ing me with the contact info for the pawn shop? Any other details you can remember about the rifle would be helpful too, ie. mechanical condition, finish wear, etc.

    Thanks!
    vanfunk
     
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