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Nosler 60gr Partitions .224 Rem 700 (22250)

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by 2ltrobert, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. 2ltrobert

    2ltrobert Member

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    Today we ran some heavy load attempts with our Remington .22-250.

    Unfortunately factory barrel 1-14 twist couldn't handle the 60gr Nosler Partitions for us. 12 shots at zero distance 230yds produced only 3 hits on the 12"x12" paper. All 3 keyhole very far from each other and our point of aim. The others splattered dirt just a few yards short.

    This was 4 shots of 33.5gr Varget, 4 hot shots with Varget; producing 1 hit, and 4 hot shots with 4350; producing 2 hits.

    After that test frowning and a cleaning we ran our 45gr Sierra Spitzers with 36gr Varget and shot 3, 5 shot groups measuring .597 to .936 at 230yards. All shots were taken prone using a Harris 6-9 bipod during calm winds.

    Will be trying the 63gr Sierras now and then dropping down from there.
     
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    The 63 grain Sierra semi-pointed will shoot reasonably well in a 1/14 22-250.

    I killed a coyote at 517 yards with one many years ago.

    I'd of thought the 60 Partition would shoot too.
    But you would probably have to go full max load velocity to get them to stabilize.

    rc
     
  3. GooseGestapo

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    I share your pain.
    My Rem. 700 in .22/250 likewise has the 1/14" twist. But, it's also the single most accurate rifle I own. It will shoot frequent 0.5" 5-shot groups w/55gr Sierra's and occasional 1-hole 5-shot groups.

    However, it is also accurate with the 63gr Sierra's as it is with the 60gr Hornady PtSpt.
    I suggest you switch to H380 or RL15. These give me much better performance than Varget. Varget is good with the light projectiles you listed but doesn't give me the velocity or accuracy of the two listed above with 55gr or heavier bullets...

    My rifle maxes out at 39.0gr of H380 with the 60-63gr bullets. 35.5gr of RL15.
    I get ~3,500fps w/H380 and 3,450fps w/RL15.
    From my experience w/Varget you were getting 3,300 or so.... The extra speed helps stabilizing these bullet from the 1/14" bbl.

    The 60gr Hornady is my favorite bullet for your application. It has never failed to penetrate a deer from my .22/250. I've only recovered one from my .223 on a deer. It was shot at only 35yds and I intentionally made a raking shot of the body. Impact was behind last rib and bullet was just under the hide on the far shoulder. Deer ran stumbling ~25yds and dropped. Zero meat loss! Bullet was perfectly mushroomed and weighs 38gr. Or, just about like a 100gr "Interlok" from my .257wby.... Similar performance on deer too...
    I don't see the point of spending 3x for a bullet that does the same thing....(Nosler).
    I bought 1,000 of the 60gr Hornady's as "blems" for about $7/100. Thats what my AR and Rem.700 are stoked with.
    But, if your rifle won't group with the 60's, the 55gr will also work..... I still like the Hornady's but usually, the Sierra's will shoot better in my experience....
    Just avoid using a "boat-tail" bullet or less than 55gr. My ".22cf" "failures" have been with less than 53gr bullets... and a non-boattail bullet will less likely shed the jacket.
    Also, don't use the "blitz", "SX" or such as they have thinner jackets intended to shred/breakup at lower speeds.
    The Sierra "High-Velocity" 55gr bullets have been superb for our "smallish" deer...
    However, my "favorite" .22 bullet for deer is the 65gr Sierra GameKing. However, my 1/14" .22/250 only shoots ~2" groups with them. My Rem Mod-7 in .223 1/12" will shoot them to ~1". Of course the 1/9 AR groups them nicely too...
     
  4. guntech59

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    I have had very good luck with the 60gr Partition in my 1-14" twist Savage 110.

    39.0gr of W760 and a Fed 215, loaded to 2.440" works for mine. It is a stiff load so work up accordingly.

    On paper targets at 200 yards, it gives about 1" groups. Ironically it shot the same size groups at 100 yards, also.

    No evidence of instability at either range.
     
  5. 2ltrobert

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    GooseG; you nailed the next combo of bullet and powder for this gun. Have very high hopes and without any uncertainty with those 60gr Hornady's and H380. That will play out after my trip to the shop and I should report back on how that works soon after.

    I did give those 60gr Noslers a last chance stand loading them to just at or over 3500fps with 36gr Varget, 34gr 3031, and 40gr imr4350. Shots didn't improve much if at all at these loads. Tearing the paper at 200 yards and only 4 hits out of 12 on a target that is 1'x1'.

    Put them on the side shelf with the boxes of Nosler/CT 50gr and 55gr silver tip boat tails that don't shoot to well in this Rem700 either. It's a good thing my fathers 1:12 Thompson Center is just across the road or I'd have about 400 balls collecting dust.
     
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    love my 1-in-12" Savage .22-250 :)
     
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    My 1:12 twist .22-250 shoots decent 1" hunting groups with 60 gr. partition's and Varget. I don't think Nosler recommends them for anything slower than 1:12.

    If you want to try Hornady A-Max 52 gr. bullets, I am getting excellent groups with 34.5 grains of Varget and CCI benchrest primers. Full prep on the brass includes neck turning, flash hole uniforming, etc. That load will turn a coyote inside out.
     
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    Yeah, I'm glad my Howa 1500 in .223 has a 1/12 twist so I can at least use 60gr and 63gr bullets without a problem. BTW, it's not always the bullet weight that causes the problems but the bullet length. If you find a 60gr bullet which is shorter than the 60gr Partition it just might stabilize in the 1/14 twist barrel.
     
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