Not a handloading Newby

[JM Browning]

It may seem like a newby when my XDs blew up in my hand. Any way my handloads for 270 win. had to be manhandled to seat and close the bolt in Remy 700. After resizing I measured all diameters and were spec Could something have happened in seating to cause this. Do I need new dies. What's going on with these? 3 Different brands of brass and bullets.

 

[rcmodel]

Will a sized case chamber before you put a bullet in it???

If not, you don't have your sizing die screwed down far enough to take all the press flex out of things when sizing.

Run the ram up, screw the die down touching it.
Lower the ram and screw it in another 1/8 - 1/4 turn.

You should feel a definite 'bump' at full ram travel without a case in it.
Which means the press / shell holder is actually making contact with the die when FL sizing.
Which in turn returns the case shoulder back where it came from.

You could also have the seating die screwed down too far and it is crimping the case and buckling the shoulder.

In the mean time, color a loaded round that's hard to chamber with a black magic marker.
Then chamber it.

When you get it back out, where the shiny brass is and not black ink?
That right there is your problem.

rc

 

[howlnmad]

Is this new brass, once fired from your gun, range pick ups? You say you measured diameters. What about case length after sizing? What's your overall length? To many variables to give a direct answer.

 

[JM Browning]

It's once fired. All measurements check out. I even fitzed polished them before case lube

 

[JM Browning]

That would be screwing it in or out? 1/8-1/4

 

[ArchAngelCD]

That would be screwing it in or out? 1/8-1/4

You have to screw the sizing die further in or down so that more of the case is sized and you actually bump the shoulder of the brass sightly down. I know it's hard to visualize words but I hope I was fairly clear.

 

[fiftybmg]

Three brands of die can't be faulty.

There are 2 things that can go wrong with seating.

1. when you are seating, the seating die is bulging the brass

2. the OAL is too long, so the bullet ogive is running out of freebore in the chamber, when you close the bolt, you are seating the bullet further in the case

It's not clear if the once-fired brass was from the same rifle.

If it is, it does not need to be resized, only neck-sized, but a full-length sizing is not a bad thing.

If it is not from the same rifle, it must be full-length sized, not neck-sized.

 

[JM Browning]

Same rifle, I like to full length size'em. If I do not I guess I would use a third die to unseat the primer. I do have a universal primer popper(new word). Maybe recoat with case lube,after seating bullet, putting clear fingernail polish over the primers? I don't hunt I got this rifle for target shooting open sights, but I couldn't imagine wrestling with it if I needed more shots to take game.

 

[loose noose]

What RC said, I've got a Remington 700 BDL Custom Deluxe in the .270, had a similar problem, as I wasn't seating the cartridge down all the way. Once I felt the bump at the end of the stroke all was well. Further I use mine to hunt mule deer out here so the second shot has allways been a possibility. You might also as was previously mentioned check the oal of the cartridge itself, empty as well as loaded.

 

[rcmodel]

And absolutely no need to seal primers with nail polish.

Unless you're a Navy SEAL and spend a lot of time 50' under water.

rc

 

[JM Browning]

If I relubed the finished cartridge, I wouldn't have to worry about degrading the primers?

 

[rcmodel]

Why would you re-lube the finished cartridges?

If you have to re-size them, you must pull the bullets first.

You cannot FL size loaded ammo without ruining the bullets by squashing them way undersize in the sizing die.

As for getting sizing lube on the primers?
If you use that much lube, you are using way too much lube in all the wrong places!

Only the sides of the case need lube, and then only a very thin film.

Rc

 

[witchhunter]

Maybe I missed it, but can you chamber an empty sized case without a bullet seated? If not chambering easily, there are two things that could be wrong. Sizer adjusted wrong or brass too long. Easy fix, mark the case with a sharpie and chamber, look for the shiny spots. That is the problem.....If you can chamber a sized case, but not a loaded round, the COL is too long or your seater die is crimping too much and smashing the case out at the shoulder.

 

[rcmodel]

I ask him whether a sized case would chamber two days ago in the 2nd. post!

So far, no answer to whether they will?
Or whether they won't?

Maybe he lost interest and took up golf?

rc

 

[JM Browning]

Golf is boring. I cleaned the Remy this afternoon, and I'll shove the rounds down it's throat tomorrow, one at a time like I do with Browning 1885 single shot. I measured and remeasured the brass the neck shoulders everything and it was to spec. I measured finished product, guarantee not one was too long , couple hundredths short in some but not long. When I'm finished shooting these Ill give em another sonic bath and start over. Last time I fished some rounds were pink, just the second batch. Used Flitz to polish off the pink. How Long does one clean brass in a hot sonic cleaner?

 

[JM Browning]

Shot up the remainder of the handloads one was really tough chambering. Cleaned 'em reloaded half,25. After resize chambered a couple, like butter. Finished ready for the range now. Thank you guys for all your feedback. You should see me out there with my 700 in a Ledslead trying to sight in 100 yds. Open sights. One more time and I should have it licked. Not as easy as it was 40 years ago just sitting and shooting clay pigeons.