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Doing it reversed. I know it's time to make an autoloading rifle purchase, just one of those 1st Tuesday followed by the first Monday in November things.

Ok which ARs wouldn't you have. My criteria of ownership would be 1:7 twist nail driver .Very reliable.
 
There are none I wouldn't have. The DMPS is probably the least expensive @ under $600, but even it isn't bad. I've not run across a really bad one yet. It just comes down to the features you are willing to pay for.

I sold my DPMS. Not because it was a bad gun, but I already owned several better and decided I could use the money better somewhere else. For my money I like the Palmetto State Armory for the money, around $750. I also have Stag and Rock River. But in the same basic price range I'd probably be just as happy with Windham, or S&W.

I'm not convinced Colt is any better, but if you want to spend $1000-$1100 for one I'm sure they are great guns, as are several more in that range.
 
Ive seen some bad ones but most of them were made by people who had no business building an AR.

But when choosing a rifle it all depends on what the purpose of the rifle is. Mission drives the gear train. If its going to a range/hunting rifle than just about anything will work. If its for work where you might find yourself in some not so nice places full of not so nice people than I would highly suggest you go with the ones built to or better than military standard.
 
JM Browning said:
Doing it reversed. I know it's time to make an autoloading rifle purchase, just one of those 1st Tuesday followed by the first Monday in November things.

Ok which ARs wouldn't you have. My criteria of ownership would be 1:7 twist nail driver .Very reliable.
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I usually look at it from the top down, haven't really thought of it this way, but...given that, I would not have:

Anything I haven't heard of
Bushmaster
Olympic
Double Star
DPMS
DelTon


If I won or was simply handed one of the above I would simply turn around and sell it. The way things go I might even be able to sell it for enough to straight up buy a higher quality replacement, lol. Or at least close.
 
Warp said:
I usually look at it from the top down, haven't really thought of it this way, but...given that, I would not have:

Anything I haven't heard of
Bushmaster
Olympic
Double Star
DPMS
DelTon


If I won or was simply handed one of the above I would simply turn around and sell it. The way things go I might even be able to sell it for enough to straight up buy a higher quality replacement, lol. Or at least close.
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Crap, you and I agree for once.
 
add warp's list and ssn vet's together. that about sums it up. plenty of decent rifles out there, and it mostly comes down to personl preference and getting the most bang for your buck in regards to what it'll be used for.
 
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Seems to happen more recently.
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Indeed. In retrospect, our differing views have been negated by our somewhat similar definitions of quality. When a rifle goes bang, is cheap, but has functioning features that give it value, that's a good buy. When another rifle goes bang, costs more, but has even MORE (I.e.: barrel steel, FA, DC, particle and pressure testing, etc) function defining features, that's a good buy.

What some manufacturers pass off as quality is beyond me. Case in point:
American Spirit Arms. Rifles with no features or specifications that bring it on par with say Colt, BCM, or even PSA or S&W. but, they command over $1K for their rifles.

DPMS Sporticle: Why spend $587 retail when another $100 or less gets you an M&P Sport, a vastly superior firearm?

Bushmaster: Why spend $1K for the M4A3 when the Windham Weaponry rifle of that same model has better QC and specs for less.

Olympic: no name, nothing strikingly similar to a weapon carried by my kin in Vietnam or Desert Storm. Kind of a farce, really.

I can't comment on Double Star or Del Ton. Del Ton looks to have a fan following of very happy owners, so I won't say boo. I know nothing of Double Star, and that's scary.

So, without being too harsh, I don't trust a rifle I won't buy based soley on a brochure. I'm a consumer, a rube, a fool. Sell me on features that keep me running till the Ragnarok in a rifle that refuses to quit. The above mentioned fail to excite my wallet.
 
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add warp's list and ssn vet's together. that about sums it up. plenty of decent rifles out there, and it mostly comes down to personl preference and getting the most bang for your buck in regards to what it'll be used for.
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Agreed. If you want a copy that looks good, buy accordingly and at the cheapest price. It won't sting so much. That being said, you can buy a nice AR on a budget with specifications that make it vastly superior to the above mentioned poster's short list of B teamers. Sometimes even cheaper. Mostly cheaper AND better.
 
Wouldn't own: Hesse/vulcan, Olympic

Would buy if deal is right(not saying bad stuff): Delton, DPMS, Double Star, Bushmaster, Stag

Like: S&W, BCM, PSA, Colt, Daniel Defense,

Can't afford: Noveske, LaRue, LWRC,
 
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