Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Not sure where to start (Hafa Adai)

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by taotaogalu, May 29, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. taotaogalu

    taotaogalu Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2011
    Messages:
    10
    Location:
    Dededo,Guam
    I live on the tiny island of Guam.Im part a few other forums but am new to the highroad.I open carry where ever and would like to know where to start on discussion groups and what not.I also guess I can say that I am one of few if not the only person on Guam that currently open carries a firearm,and would like to meet other people who might be here,that does the same.Feels lonely sometimes not knowing if someone practices the same rights we all have here on the island.Thank you.
     
  2. JellyJar

    JellyJar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,242
    Location:
    Alabama
    Hello

    Welcome to The Highroad.

    What are the gun control laws like in Guam and what type of gun do you carry?
     
  3. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    4,524
    Is there any violent crime on Guam?
     
  4. goon

    goon Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2003
    Messages:
    7,246
    Agreed - please educate us on the gun situation in Guam!

    I don't know about where you might find other shooters in your area but the Internet allows us to discuss guns with each other from all over the world.
     
  5. talldragon

    talldragon Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    179
    Location:
    NorCal.
    Wow, I am curious as well.
    Especially, how the gun laws are applied in US territories such as Guam, Marshall Is.,Puerto Rico etc.

    I know taotaogalu can only speak for his territory of Guam.
     
  6. Vapor63

    Vapor63 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    30
    Location:
    Walla Walla
    My family is from Guam, but I was raised in the US and am very disconnected from the culture these days. While my Chamorro relatives seem like they would be pro-gun, I don't believe any of them own any, aside from the usual old shotgun or .22 you might find laying around. I visited only once, while much younger, but did not see any guns or people carrying. In fact, I don't think I even saw any police. Right on for exercising your rights, but I can't imagine many chamorro own or carry pistols because there isn't much of a gun culture there. Moreover, I think I saw on google maps that there is only one range, and not much land to shoot on.

    I'm curious what it's like. Do people hassle you? Are there places to shoot other than the one range? Is what I read about having to register pistols with the sheriff true?
     
  7. MarkDozier

    MarkDozier Member.

    Joined:
    May 15, 2006
    Messages:
    375
    Hafa Adai Brother! Welcome

    Owen - yes there is violent crime on Guam. Right after I left a shipmate was beaten and raped by a gang of punks.

    funny thing Guam is the only shooting range i have ever been thrown out of. reallly racist place that was for JAP's only. It was on hotel row.

    I love Guamian food. that is where i got hooked on tabasco.
     
  8. Rubber_Duck

    Rubber_Duck Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,357
    Location:
    New Mexico
    Hafa adai and welcome taotaogalu,

    I am currently stationed in Guam. I love it here but the local people seem to be hit or miss. But the food and activities make up for it. But yes to crime, especially locals vs US Military personnel. I wanted a CCW for this reason. Most violent crimes are just beatings and theft. Guam isn't big enough to have real gangs and almost everybody is related, so they just have "fight clubs" that troll for trouble in the bars downtown. Stay away from local girls, I know a couple guys that flirted with locals girls only to get beat up! Hopefully that answers the question about violent crime in Guam.

    I almost PCSed with all my firearms here but didn't because I didn't. Knowing what I know now it would've been easy. Except I own a dozen and a half guns and to pay a $40 registration fee on each one is ridiculous. The police system is very corrupt here and I wouldn't trust them handling my guns in any way, I've heard some first-hand horror stories about Guam PD.

    Anyway, with a box of .223 being $24 out here shooting isn't a popular sport so even if I did bring my guns I would've paid a lot of money to have them here and not shoot them much. I find it odd that you would open carry in Guam, this is a very strange place to do it as firearms are not part of the culture here. Are you LEO by any chance? I wanted to obtain my CCW here as well but the system is so corrupt that unless you are a politician or a big business owner with connections to people in the PD you are not going to get one. MAY-issuse state. Finding a shooting range is a lot of work, one of the only decent ones closed down and the only private rifle range left is on an appointment-basis, you have to call ahead of time so they can have somebody there for you. Real inconvenience.

    I have only met one local who owns guns here so it is safe to say gun owners are scarce here. But there is a board at dragguam.com/dragboard where you can buy/sell firearms (if you have a permit) in Guam and meet other owners. I missed a USP 45 for $450 because I didn't bother to get a gun permit in the off-chance that I may find a deal like that. But typically prices are higher. I've seen Colt AR-15s selling for $1500 and a Walther P22 at a gun store for $600.

    I think the citizens of Guam should take advantage of the right to own firearms, they still have it easy compared to most countries. I feel the culture just doesn't lend itself to firearm ownership in the first place. No assault weapons ban here so that is good, but no NFA items allowed.

    This is what I can tell you about Guam, I cannot speak for the other islands in the Marianas Islands, Micronesia, the FSM, Puerto Rico, or any others.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2011
  9. candr44

    candr44 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    392
    I don't know about gun laws on Gaum or Puerto Rico but in the Marshall Islands its illegal to own a gun. Its also not a U.S. territory but a different country.

    I have met people there who claim to have guns left there during WW2 including full auto guns. I don't know if they were telling the truth but considering all the WW2 junk left there it could very possibly be true. You can still find all kinds of ammo washing up on the coral reefs.
     
  10. talldragon

    talldragon Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    179
    Location:
    NorCal.
    Pardon my gaffe :eek: . I normally fact-check before posting.
     
  11. Tinpig

    Tinpig Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    890
    Location:
    SE Massachusetts
    Welcome, taotaogalu!

    I was only in Guam once, passing through on the way back to RVN after R&R in Hawaii in 1969. But I did get to enjoy the awesome power of B-52s seemingly falling off the cliff at the end of the runway as they took off into the evening sky.

    For anyone interested, here's Scott Duff's article about the Garands of Guam:

    http://www.scott-duff.com/GuamMono.htm

    Tinpig
     
  12. Rubber_Duck

    Rubber_Duck Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,357
    Location:
    New Mexico
    We have B-52s here right now. Just watching do a low fly-by and hearing those 8 screaming engines gives any American goosebumps, that is the true sound of freedom! They are amazing planes, IIRC the AF doesn't plan to retire them until 2040. There are pilots out there flying them right now who had fathers that flew them in Vietnam.
     
  13. LeonCarr

    LeonCarr Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2003
    Messages:
    3,817
    Location:
    At The Range
    IIRC there are a few THIRD generation B-52 pilots/crew members out there, a testimony to a great aircraft. To stay on topic, it would be nice if Guam had more shooters.

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
  14. Kendal Black

    Kendal Black Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2011
    Messages:
    1,180
    On topic: Taotaogalu, welcome to the discussion!

    Off topic: The Buffs should have been retired a generation ago. After a certain point, an airframe is parts flying in formation.
     
  15. USAF_Vet

    USAF_Vet Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011
    Messages:
    5,773
    Location:
    Hastings, Michigan
    Having flown through Guam a dozen times in the AF, I saw and heard a lot about the thefts and beatings. I don't recall seeing anything that was overly gun related, I don't even recall if Anderson AFB even had a rifle range. They probably did, but it would be off limits to civilians. I'm curious to know how you are treated while open carrying. A lot of places in the States OC is seen as very odd and out of place, unless it's hunting season.
     
  16. jahwarrior

    jahwarrior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,098
    Location:
    Dickson City, PA
    it's illegal to carry a gun in PR, unless you're LEO, period. you can own a shotgun or rifle, because people down there do hunt, butyou can forget about owning and carrying a handgun legally. PR is a may-issue territory, but right now, there's some action being undertaken to bedcome shall-issue. hopefully, if it happens they'll have reciprocity with some of the states' licenses.
     
  17. InkEd

    InkEd Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,575
    Location:
    Parts Unknown
    B-52s

    Given the length of service, there are probably pilots flying B-52s that had GRANDfathers flying them too. Truly, they are one of our most iconic airplanes and can still get the job done pretty well.

    I would compare them to the 1911 pistol. It's an old reliable design. They are heavy and slow but tough as nails. Despite their age, there isn't too many things that are really alot better. They are American icons and have been used in about every conflict for the 50 years. Also, even when they are replaced the B-52 (like the 1911) will still have diehard fans that would still select them over more modern equipment.
     
  18. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,544
    Location:
    Central PA
    Taotaogalu, WELCOME to THR! Glad you're here. This is a truly international community (though we do get pretty preoccupied with state-side stuff) and we will greatly benefit from your contributions to our forum.

    Please share whatever you can about the gun culture on Guam, common and uncommon arms you've seen there, the laws, the rules (both official and unofficial), opportunities for shooting, and your experiences.
     
  19. Unistat

    Unistat Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2008
    Messages:
    502
    Location:
    SE Michigan
    I saw a show (on the History Channel, I think) that showed three generations of crew that all had flown on the same B-52.
     
  20. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,544
    Location:
    Central PA
    (Ahem...while they are very cool, this isn't the "B-52 Channel." Let's drop that subject and not derail Taotaogalu's thread or get it closed.)
     
  21. Rubber_Duck

    Rubber_Duck Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,357
    Location:
    New Mexico
    Yes we do have a range, down by the beach. Not sure if privately-owned firearms are permitted. Hunting is allowed 4 days out of the week year-round in the surrounding jungle, hog and deer are popular (the hogs moreso because the deer on this island are tiny, the size of large dogs).

    This is our rifle range. Navy also has one at NCTAMS which is also a rifle range but at the top of a cliff and the range itself is smaller but much nicer than what the AF has. Ours is run down but I'm thankful for the overhead cover.
    [​IMG]
     

    Attached Files:

  22. taotaogalu

    taotaogalu Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2011
    Messages:
    10
    Location:
    Dededo,Guam
    To me Guam is actually pro gun, I get the ocational "that guy has a gun hmmm look" but people dont get bothered with it.They dont go call the cops and say theres this guy with a gun, the local LEO`S aren't that bad either haven't encountered one yet while carrying but alot of them support open carrying, as long as you comply with the law and have your credentials you`ll be just fine. But if anything no problems so far,just wished i knew other people who carries legally and openly as i do, it`s just people dont understand what says on there FID`S that you may carry "shotguns,rifle`s,and handguns in a nonconcealed status".


    Ohh for jelly jar I own a few guns bushmaster M4 with a knights rail with a grip pod, surefire tactical light,eotech 552.
    XD subcompact with a crimson trace laser grip. primary carry weapon.
    Mosberg 500 tactical 500 with a BSA red dot aimpoint.
    Springfield armory micro compact.
    and im currenlty in the process of acquiring a barret M107A1
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2011
  23. Rubber_Duck

    Rubber_Duck Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,357
    Location:
    New Mexico
    Just read that piece, very cool information. One of my coworkers has a friend off-base that owns of the Garands used in the liberation of Guam. Very sentimental rifle and the history is significant for the Chamorros.

    But back on topic, I wish the concealed carry laws were more forgiving here.:banghead:
     
  24. jahwarrior

    jahwarrior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,098
    Location:
    Dickson City, PA
    i jelly. :(

    :D
     
  25. Carne Frio

    Carne Frio Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    745
    Location:
    Near Fairbanks
    Welcome to this fine forum !

    I lived in Guam from 1959 until 1966. I went to high school and
    college there. I pretty much lived at the beaches and hung around
    with the Palauans, Yapese and Hawaians. I remember the fiestas
    in Dededo were the best. I lived in Tamuning and Agana Heights.
    Got to talk to a lot of older people about the occupation. I also
    had friends that were into collecting artifacts from the war. One
    even blew up his house and himself with an old mortar shell.

    It seemed to be not too friendly for handguns, at the time.
    I got to go shotgun hunting for fruit bats a few times. That
    was fun, running around in the jungle at night with a 12 gauge.

    Glad to see there are still active shooters there.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page