Now Bush will win for sure!

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I don't agree with the reduction in number of FFLs, but as I said before executive orders are limited in what they can accomplish.

I own more guns now, despite the fact there are fewer FFLs.

There are more guns now in the US than there were then.

So I think the reduction of FFLs proves the point that the order accomplished little.

All that did was reduce the number of small time dealers, mainly people who worked out of their homes and did not make many sales anyway. Eliminating them was bad, but didnt accomplish anything.
 
You don't have to agree, the reduced number of FFL's is fact. It's harder and more expensive to get a gun, due solely to Clinton's pressure.

And Kerry could find many other things that could hurt gunowners if he's elected.

Bought a Streetsweeper lately? The same thing could happen to all 'police-style' shotguns. With no legislation at all.
 
telewinz, I would ask again what changed your mind from staunch Bush supporter to Bush basher in the last few months, if it wasn't Kerry's campaign ads?
 
So I think the reduction of FFLs proves the point that the order accomplished little.

1. It pressured individuals into giving up a business that they invested in. Doesn't that constitute something?

2. The anti-gun atmosphere led to increased inspections and harassment of dealers, some of whom reduced their product line to avoid further problems (i.e. no more handguns). Doesn't that count for something?

I think you're trying to minimize what happened in order to justify your argument. Thus, your comment about not agreeing with the reduced number of FFLs. It doesn't matter what you agree with or not: it's a fact, and one that Clinton and ATF rather joyously proclaimed.
 
At a meeting of World Leaders, how can you spot Bush from a distance?

I can't remember what interview it was, but a reporter asked Kerry if he thought Bush was not intelligent. Kerry knew better and said something unassuming. After which the reporter revealed that Bush's IQ was higher than Kerry's. Kerry replied that he knew that.

It was entertaining, given the way most people have pigeon holed Bush into the "dunce" category. :rolleyes:
 
I think you're trying to minimize what happened in order to justify your argument. Thus, your comment about not agreeing with the reduced number of FFLs. It doesn't matter what you agree with or not: it's a fact, and one that Clinton and ATF rather joyously proclaimed.

Buzz, did Bush reverse the Clinton rules to allow for increased number of FFLs?
 
He put ATF under Justice, something ATF never wanted because it meant heightened oversight and a reduced ability to use their inspection authority as harassment tools.
 
Hey Lone_Gunman, if you want to try and steer the Republican Party back to it's more conservative roots, you should check out The Republican Libery Caucus, a grassroots movement to shift the GOP back to a small-government pro-liberty conservative party.
 
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