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NPR says no pro-gun person will come on the show

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by wacki, Dec 25, 2012.

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  1. wacki

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    Check this out:

    Random Caller:


    Diane Rehm :
    Where the heck are
    • Gary Kleck
    • Stephen Halbrook
    • David Kopel
    • Eugene Volokh
    • etc....

    There should be no excuse for this. If NPR is telling the truth then shame on us. If NPR is lying then the NRA, JPFO, SAF, etc should all have a website calling NPR out on this while offering a list of people to debate with. NPR is doing a full court press against gun owners right now and there is nobody defending us on the air waves.



    Transcript of show
    http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-12-18/americans-and-gun-control/transcript





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  2. Certaindeaf

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  3. ol' scratch

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    That is a repeat of last weeks show. No one was willing to go on before the NRA made their announcement. The way the media is carrying on right now, I am not surprised. Pierce Morgan calling progun guests stupid might have something to do with it. I really have never seen it this bad before.
     
  4. Schutzen

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    Pro-Gun Spokesmen

    Why would anyone want to interview with a so called "reporter/journalist" that calls gun owners Neanderthals, morons, idiots, rednecks, hicks, et al? Until journalists hold themselves to the standards of fairness that their profession espouses, any conversation with them is probably wasted breath.
     
  5. crossrhodes

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    NPR

    NPR has been banned in our household for the last 5 years. So no impact no effect.
     
  6. JERRY

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    Why would anybody knowing walk into an ambush at a radio show?
     
  7. TheGloriousTachikoma

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    Maybe to have some representation in the public eye? Right now it looks like we're hiding, no-one is speaking up. It makes it look like we're going to take this laying down.
     
  8. JERRY

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    The only recognized voice to support the 2nd amendment without fluff and apology is ted nugent and he cant keep it clean and gets overboard some times.
     
  9. wacki

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    I understand that point of view. You get someone that is very talented to say:

    "I will be happy to go on the show if it's 1:1 ratio of pro-gun to anti-gunners, I get to use my own recorder to make a recording of the show, etc..."

    The pro-gunners gained a ton of ground in this debate:

    http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/598-guns-reduce-crime

    I believe we are on the right side of the issue. It's much better to have a Kleck or Kopel on the show then have NPR quote Mr. "we have a black man in the white house, pass the ammunition"

    Seriously, listen to the shows. It doesn't look good when they can pick their own villains.
     
  10. Rocketmedic

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    People on both sides of the aisle (especially the right side) seem to forget that democracy is a two-way street. Walking away from the debate as a protest simply guarantees that we will be ignored.
     
  11. JERRY

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    First we are not a democracy.

    Second, there are two kinds of people who listen to npr, those who wont change their minds and those whom already know the truth. You loose nothing by side stepping npr.
     
  12. hogshead

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  13. bainter1212

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    FWIW, Neil Conan ("Talk of the Nation") has been and always seems to be, pretty fair and invested in keeping everyone on point on his show. A couple days after the shooting, he had the mayor of New Haven (decidedly anti-gun) on the show, and the esteemed mayor kept referring to magazines as "clips" and kept referring to semi-auto ARs as "full auto". Neil corrected him on these points, the mayor "poo pooed" his correction like it didn't matter, and Neil insisted upon the correction until the mayor relented. Seems like Conan understands the big difference between semi and full auto and didn't want his listeners misled on these points. Just my two cents, my local affiliate doesn't carry the Diane Reim show.
    I listen to NPR a lot, they are generally, blessedly free of the shouting talking heads you would generally find on the radio. While I frequently catch bias on the part of show hosts, usually based on sheer ignorance, Neil Conan seems to be an exception. I rarely if ever catch him letting a guest spread misinformation, before that guest is brought up with a round turn, no matter the political persuasion or topic of discussion.
    JMHO
     
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    Yesterday my father had a small "debate" with me. He is Pro hunting and owns several firearms. Listens/watches PBS etc. Told me we citizens do not need handguns or assault weapons to hunt with so what is the big deal with just giving them up. Nobody needs to own a machine gun and that the children did not need to be killed with one.:what: I asked who said they did?? He replied the TV, Radio, and TV all reported that. I tried to explain that all my semi-auto 223 rifles (some that he shot himself) were the same ammo and capacity capable but he was adamant that the shooting was carried out with a full auto assault weapon because that was what was reported in more than one media outlet.:banghead: I asked that he check his facts but he stated that he had no need and PBS of all people would not lie.:cuss: BTW he is a retired teacher and purchased a Mini 14 for me once in the past. The media is doing a great job of smearing the lines of what is true and what is "needed".:cuss:
     
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    Like in the last election the left has NO problem lieing, and gets away with it due to their domination of the media. Meanwhile every statement we make is fact checked ad nauseum, but the left gets a pass.
     
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    And you lose nothing by bringing an intelligent, rational debate to the platform. A bit elitist and out of touch to ignore an audience of voters based on bias. Perhaps this is what perpetuates the stereotype of gun owners as selfish, out of touch fanatics.
     
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    So go out, make accurate statements and challenge incorrect information.
     
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    This will be interesting to share since my brother is the rarest of breeds: a liberal gun owner who listens to NPR.

    I have largely considered NPR to be among the most biased of news organizations that never covers both sides of the argument.
     
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    NPR? What's that?
     
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    I'm on the board of directors of our local gun club. We actually received an email from NPR asking for a representative of our club to call them and do an interview. We figure we were chosen because our club starts with the letter "A" and is followed by gun club. We probably came up early in a google search. Anyway, we talked about it briefly and all of us agreed that this would only turn out badly for our club as soundbites would be taken out of context and we would look (sound) like fools.

    I would guess that many others have the same feeling and declined to be interviewed. Nothing you could say would satisfy a gun-hating liberal and you certainly won't change their mind.
     
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    Nationalized Progressive Radio--I would only agree to go on the air live. I have had several experiences where what I said (on tape) was carefully edited they then used it out of context or my actual meaning changed by using half of one statement and half on another. I worked with the local NPR on a history series which I mostly wrote only to have them "butcher" it in the editing room and air it without my seeing and approving their "minor" changes. Needless to say, the end product promoted the progressive view rather than the factually correct one. I pulled the plug on it when we were halfway through. What they did with the other half of the series was even worse.
     
  22. TheGloriousTachikoma

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    Funny that this is exactly the same sentiment that 'they' have towards all of 'you'. You want Mr. 'Black man in the white house, praise gawd and pass the ammunition' to be the only pro-gun voice they hear? Maybe you won't change any minds but if you are really that scared of them twisting your words then maybe your arguments aren't that strong to begin with. <_<
     
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    I mostly agree about the idea of not walking into an ambush but I need to give mad props to Larry Pratt and gun owners of america. As cool and calm as he was with someone screaming at him and calling him names is exactly what we need on our side.
     
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    The major problem I have with NPR is that it's far left, anti-gun bias is supported by my tax dollars. Yes, I have communcated this to my elected reps.

    Why do you think I'm not doing that already?
     
  25. MErl

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    the expressed bias and how issues are handled change on a show by show basis. The show you listed is one I've never heard of, not carried here.

    http://www.npr.org/programs/#D
     
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