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NPR Story on Gun Violence

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jr_roosa, Mar 23, 2013.

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  1. jr_roosa

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    NPR story on gun violence. I think keeping up on what is out in the media is important.

    http://www.npr.org/2013/03/18/173812393/among-thousands-of-gun-deaths-only-one-charles-foster-jr

    Interesting and pretty fact based. Discussed that 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides, that long guns don't contribute much, and even had a prosecutor say that focusing on background checks won't change much since most guns used in homicides are stolen and obtained illegally. "They aren't going to gun shows to buy these."

    They did have a guy who is pretty negative on ARs.

    I have been impressed with the improved quality of gun writing in the liberal leaning press. I think that they are paying attention to details more than they used to. The anti gun sentiment is still strongly expressed but they seem to be bringing their A game to gun stories.

    J.
     
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    I heard this story on Monday. I was really surprised that overall it was pretty unbiased. The best quotes in the story were from the prosecutor that they interviewed.

     
  3. sidheshooter

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    The thing about NPR, and an earlier story on PBS, is that they have to make an effort to interview some experts, and research the stories. Over the length of enough time passing, facts will eventually tend to out. I think that's what we are starting to see happen.
     
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    I wouldn't go so far as to call it unbiased. There is still an unhealthy fascination with the gun instead of the real problem (shady clubs at midnight), as they ask "why, why, why? How do we stem this bloody tide?". Capped off by a medical examiner saying he'd give up the he uses to protect himself in his dangerous line of work if the government said so as to "be part of the solution, not the problem"

    Just a few days ago they had a piece about Wyoming's high suicide rate, and how high gun ownership exacerbated the problem. This hours after I heard Blomberg had set his sights on that state next (lots of city immigrants into that state of late; just like Colorado).

    Much less crass propaganda than they usually pump out (a welcome change that I do appreciate) but there is still a definite agenda. They merely didn't answer their rhetorical "why?" question in the article, so it seems less confrontational and more balanced--it isn't. The paragraph about legal gunnies not being a problem; 'bout time they mention that after the beating we've taken for years now

    *did anyone else know S&W made 20ga shotguns? Learn sumthin' new everyday

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  5. jr_roosa

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    I was actually going to cite that as a blatant error, but I googled it first.

    I learned something new about guns from NPR today.

    I agree it's totally an agenda, but they are really putting effort into it.

    J.
     
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    NPR and their ilk are well aware that there is little sense in expanding background checks.

    Don't you understand that it's just part of a series forming successive stages?

    They will repeatedly and strenuously deny it, but in their estimation what we need to significantly enhance public safety is domestic disarmament, collecting and destroying guns from their civilian populations.
     
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    I do feel great remorse for his family, but maybe it is time to wake up and smell the roses. Does anyone think the military, in this case the US Army, placed this club on the "Off Limits" List because they did not like the owners? No, this club and all others placed on the "Off Limits" Lists are placed there because they have a history of dangerous, illegal activity. If you play with fire, expect to get burned. Some can play every day for several years, but others like this young man get burned their first time.
    This may be an example of a rather unbiased story, but it is a much better example of why one should not make poor choices.
     
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    They are trying to sound reasonable, because they know that strident emotional non-sense turns people off eventually. It's almost like a double edged sword, when they say "most of the guns are stolen, not legally purchased", etc. Next, they say, "well, how do you fix THAT problem?". So now you pass a law to lock up your weapons, and register them, right? "There, THAT should fix the problem." No? Oh, well then, "we have to make all gun ownership illegal"...

    Slippery slope...
     
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    My father gave one to my brother for a Christmas present, about 32 years ago - it is a nice, no-frills grouse/rabbit gun.
     
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    Can anyone explain why there is no outcry to curtail "knife violence" or "blunt object violence"? This fascination with what people use to kill each other rather than why they kill each other is beyond silly.

    As one commenter on the story noted, the hopeless and un-winnable war on drugs puts a whole lot of people in prison and causes a whole lot of people to seek a way to even the score in situations (e.g., Person A stole Person B's crack) where calling the police and filing an insurance claim is not an option.

    Here's a suggestion: Remove marijuana from the federal controlled substances list. Let states decide whether they want to allow it, and let them tax the crap out of it. Then release all the people doing time for marijuana crimes, and use their old cells to keep a violent criminals incarcerated. The best way to keep a gun out of the hands of a confirmed violent criminal is to keep that criminal where he can't steal a gun.

    Once we see how well that works, the tide will shift. People will wonder why we ever thought smoking dope should be a federal crime. Instead of thinking up new ways to punish the law-abiding, legislators will focus on which controlled substance to legalize next.
     
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    Even after all these years, I've never heard the concept put quite like that.

    Excellent.
     
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    No reason to make it complex when it's simple.
     
  13. Oklacoyotekiller

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    I have a smith 12ga. Love that shotgun.
     
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    There is; in England. Read for yourself:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

    We're just not there, yet, ourselves... It's all part of the push for civil disarmament and a governmental monopoly on force and violence.
     
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    Then you have this NPR interview with a Korean shop owner who organized other shop owners and they protected themselves and their stores during the LA riot when police decided not to provide protection - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=698855
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8688370#post8688370
     
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    The thing about NPR is that you typically know what you're getting... the perspective of an unbiased gentrified white urbanite.

    And yes, I was VERY careful where I placed the word "unbiased" in that statement.
     
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    NPR is something I stopped listening to twenty or so years ago. once I figured out it was funded by Congress I knew it was dumocrat propaganda.
     
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    I know of a good place to keep confirmed violent criminals, in the ground.
     
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