NRA Lawsuit against Washington State

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Fair enough - but then the second part of the question, what implications does that pose to other efforts of national security?

The 19 immigrants that you referred to did nothing with firearms to hurt us. Your reasoning would lead to suggesting that immigrants should not be allowed on airplanes, not that they should be stripped of their God given rights.

Sinixstar, I think you're letting your anti-NRA bias cloud your judgement. If this case was filed by the GOA or SAF would you honestly still side with the antis?
 
Honestly, WA DOL is just being lazy asses, DOL can contact ICE who then in turn can do a check via NLETS. OR DOL can contact USCIS and get the background check.

I would NOT have a GREENCARD if I failed the background checks, in fact since I'm an honest guy and I'm jumping through the BS called immigration.. if I had failed my background checks I'd probably get the "Don't let the door hit you.." talk at the US/Canada border.
 
Thanks for checking MD!

I'm on my second Alien Firearm License and previously had a CCW in WA too ( just let it expire because I didn't need it anymore). After jumping through all the hoops to get a Green Card I find it funny to think that this additional scrutiny is even necessary. It always seemed like bureaucratic waste to me. I doubt the effort involved is covered in the licensing fees.
 
FYI OT

Next time you leave the US as a green card holder in 2009, you'll be required to submit FULL finger prints at your port of re-entry, if you refuse, you get denied entry...
 
Yeah, it seems pretty cumbersome if someone just goes to Canada for a day trip.

The thing that bothers me most about the current law is that a Canadian, who has in no way emigrated to the US, can come to WA and hunt, but a green card holder, even one who has lived here for years and pays WA taxes all the time, cannot.
 
The article I read stated no 6 month rule....


You're correct about hunting in WA, I know the local guy that teaches hunter training, I can go and do the course at his place, but I cannot do the practical part... not allowed access to firearms.. pretty dumb, I can however take my time and money to Idaho instead, which I routinely do.

I only shoot in Idaho now...
 
I am opposed to the US allowing its citizens to be citizens of another country simultaneously.

I think Israel and AIPAC will squash your anti-dual citizenship rhetoric. They have far more pull than anti-foreigner gun owners.

-T
 
If we all agree that the constitution does not start and stop with citizenship - what effect does that have on other legal initiatives?
It's a violation of the First Amendment to censor a blog written by a legal resident alien, to compel him/her to belong to a particular church, or to deny him/her the right to religious expression.

It's a violation of the Third Amendment to quarter troops in the home of a legal resident alien.

It's a violation of the Fourth Amendment to kick in the door of the residence of a legal resident alien without a warrant.

It's a violation of the Fifth Amendment to torture a legal resident alien as part of an interrogation, or to subject him/her to cruel and unusual punishment.

Hmmm, looks to me as though the Bill of Rights apply just as much to legal resident aliens in this country as it does to U.S. citizens.

Are you seriously arguing that legal resident aliens should NOT have equal protection under the Bill of Rights? Or were you just playing devil's advocate?
 
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The big step

I came into the country with dual citizenship already under my belt... who says I'll keep the others once I'm sworn in as a US citizen ??

MD Same here... Now the big step... After being a Legal Permanent Resident for 5 years, you apply for and are granted US Citizenship?

One minute after that, you are now legal in your adopted State to have a CCW! With no extra form or License, silly rule!

What has changed? Nothing! All of the information for US Citizenship, more or less is from your original application for your Green Card, on file (a huge file!) punching you into NCIC and CIPIC takes ten seconds, will show No wants or Warrants here in the US, no arrests or convictions in Canada or with some different key strokes your Brit no conviction status also.
 
States cannot discriminate against aliens, except in very narrow circumstances like being a police officer. If states could pass laws against aliens haphazardly (Rent apartment/not rent, Drive/No Driving, Get Fishing license/ not get fishing license etc.) you would basically have states making their own foreign policy, which screws up the whole separation of powers. See e.g. Takahashi v. Fish & Game Comm'n, 334 U.S. 410, 419 (1948) ("The Federal Government has broad constitutional powers in determining what aliens shall be admitted to the United States, the period they may remain, regulation of their conduct before naturalization, and the terms and conditions of their naturalization. See Hines v. Davidowitz, 312 U. S. 52, 312 U. S. 66. Under the Constitution, the states are granted no such powers; they can neither add to nor take from the conditions lawfully imposed by Congress upon admission, naturalization and residence of aliens in the United States or the several states. State laws which impose discriminatory burdens upon the entrance or residence of aliens lawfully within the United States conflict with this constitutionally derived federal power to regulate immigration, and have accordingly been held invalid.")
 
Ok, so when can I apply... my birthday in on the 10th, can I go in around there and apply for my Birthday??



Never mind, it is only going to court later this month...

I need to contact my reps to get them on the ball too as they too had some ideas of what to do on this issue.
 
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