Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by army_eod, Feb 20, 2021.
Not until Wayne is gone.
Life member for a lot of years.
Stopped giving extra until leadership changes.
I joined the NRA decades ago and was very supportive. Based on the current management and policies, I am not in favor of them. I remain a member because I belong to some clubs that require it, but at the least expensive level I can.
I opt not to have them send me the gifts and give the money anyways, this makes your donation that much more powerful. Problem solved.
The NRA won't pester you about anything if you tell them not to. It's as simple as an e-mail or a phone call.
Nay. Put the money toward FPC or GOA.
My personal experience since the mid-70's is this:
The NRA has TWICE for me and once for a gifted *Life Membership* seemed to have forgotten my status.
The first time they started hitting me up to renew an otherwise *Lifetime* membership, I didn't care too much as the original was exceptionally inexpensive.
The second LM for me and one gifted was during a period of very reasonably offered LMs. Both - mine and the one gifted - seemed to have fallen off of the NRA's radar too. After 6-7 years they started pestering both of us to *renew*.
Now, that said and regardless particulars like the misbehavin' of NRA Principals, deluge of mailers EVERY week sometimes and their abandonment of California when I lived there.... I still may pop for yet another LM in support of ANYONE even perfunctorily backing the Second Amendment, their move out of N.Y. and a desire to not keep all of my eggs in one constituency-basket.
NRA are to gun rights what the Marines are to armed combat. They're the front line soldiers doing the necessary battle. Yes, there are some bad eggs, but they'll get weeded out.
When I became a life member over 30 years ago,I called the NRA and got off the solicitation list. I do however get my magazine.
When do you figure they'll get on that weeding? At least one bad egg has been there for over thirty years now....
Remember to support your state organizations as they are real front line in many current cases. The suggestion of supporting the NRA-ILA is a good one. The other side, well - a leader should know when their time is up.
Only if doing so doesn't take away any of your support for other organizations doing good work to maintain our rights.
Which is what kills most threads.
I think lifetime memberships were a far better deal, 50 years ago, before Wayne and his Sounder of Swine stuck their noses in the trough...
As with nations, unfortunate leaders happen. I am not about to give up on my country or the NRA. Sowing dissension is a time-proven method of taking down opponents. I am not going to give the anti-2a groups and their media and entertainment wings that satisfaction.
Pretty sure that ship sailed with post #6. Which fully agree with.
I get two of them just to throw a bit more money their way and in case they have some pretty picture on the cover that makes me want to open them. I figure all those stupid ads pay per subscription. So if I get two....twice the money they get. And they are only 10 bucks a year I think. So far all I get are ugly old pictures of old politicians lol. They are pretty bad though, mostly ads and "best gun ever" and "most critical time ever to open your wallet" (same things since at least 90) articles. The last mag I actually read was the one with the new desert eagle caliber probably a year ago. I was however impressed that they acknowledged that their test gun jammed too much. Not since Skeeter Shelton have I seen a review say the gun sucked. I do wish they would not staple the edges of the magazine. That way I could just toss them in the furnace after I'm done.
As far as the NRA. I do a yearly membership. Have since the 00s. That way I'm giving even more money plus I can cut my losses if they do much more stupidness.
I also join others plus local organizations but the sheer size of the NRA makes that money carry more weight than the others. I honestly believe the money I give to the local/ state ones is wasted but I'm not taking any chances. Lol. Seems like they just use my money to benefit the A-holes in Raleigh and Charlotte....and they are the ones who are electing the threats anyway.
I worked with the TSRA in TX and found they were very effective. Well worth the time and money. Others states might vary. You could probably change the state organization more easily than the NRA.
I would also say that supporting the organization does not mean supporting the leadership. The cause is more important than the dude. In war, unsuccessful generals got the boot, some resigned when they got the hint.
My mother recently told me a story about how her father stole $12 from her that she was saving for a bike to pay his bar bill back in 1943. I asked her if he was a high ranking official or board member in the NRA.
She said no, he wasn’t THAT bad.
If I were in that position, I would not because it has been obvious to me for awhile that WLP is more interested in what is best for WLP rather than what is best for the NRA.
GOA & NRA-ILA appear to be good alternatives.
I believe it is worthwhile to support the NRA with a Life Membership. I do not think it an issue of liking or disliking some people in management, but rather an issue of supporting something that has long supported us.
I’m a Patron Life member, my Benefactor Life membership should be through this month.
I live in a state where the elected leadership tramples the 2nd every day. It is crystal clear that my voice and vote don't have the support to change very much. Memberships like these are my little way (among a few others) to say I’m not a sheep.
Whether it’s with an NRA, GOA or a smaller state or local group membership, add your voice to theirs.
I laugh every time I see comments about Wayne and his suits, because it has little to do with anything. If thats your only beef with the NRA, then buy a membership in GOA or NAGR. Both have laundry every bit as dirty as the NRA and much, much less to show for it. You'll be supporting two organizations that spend a far greater percentage of their income than the NRA on board and staff salaries and a pathetic amount on legislative action and lobbying. But man can they take credit for the work of others.
No pro Second Amendment organization strikes fear and loathing amongst the anti gunners as does the NRA. I like that. It strikes fear because the NRA has a record of getting pro Second Amendment candidates into office.
LaPierre , like the CEO of any major corporation isn't likely to dress with clothes he buys at Costco (like me). Frankly, I don't care if he flosses with gold thread, eats Kobe burgers for breakfast or has a Harvard educated butler to help him get dressed each morning..........as long as he delivers results. Results that in the business world would be profit, in the Second Amendment world would be pro gun legislation, pro gun politicians and successful legal cases against anti gun legislation.
LaPierre and the NRA BOD have wasted $$$$ no doubt. They weren't good stewards of the income from memberships dues and industry contributions.
He isn't going to be there forever, but the NRA will. Choose to not be a member? Choose to not donate to the NRA-ILA? So does Gabby Giffords, AOC, Joe Biden and Michael Bloomberg. They are giddy with excitement over the mismanagement and recent bad publicity at the NRA because every dollar not donated, every membership not bought means the NRA is that much more ineffective.
So.........you can sit there and whine about Waynes clothes or you can donate to the NRA-ILA or heck the Second Amendment Foundation. But choosing the GOA or NAGR over the NRA is literally throwing your money away.
In the present tangle of leadership issues with NRA, a person can be forgiven for investing in life membership in a local or State organization first.
Getting an NRA LM does cut down on the solicitations--but only seeking out the "opt out" functions really shuts them off.
For those griping about being solicited, the problem is that the solicitation side is contracted out. To Lowest Bidder. Which is why the solicitations would need considerable improvement to be as well made as Flex-Seal ads . . .
As pointed out above, the NRA is not just the one thing. The NRA is the parent group. Then, there's NRA-ILA which is meant to be the pointy bit of the spear stabbing legislation we abhor. Lastly, there's NRA-PVF, which is a PAC (political Action Committee) meant to raise funds to elect politicos on "our" side, and hinder the election of those opposing "us." Each of those agencies will solicit funds on a periodic basis, per the marketing contracts they have let (see low bidder, above). You have to opt out of the marketing per each of those.
This is a measure of the size and reach of NRA in our political landscape. That, for legal reasons, they have to split out the political sides (which largely get our attention) to keep the mundane bits (hunter safety & shooting instruction, range advice, educational outreach, competition and matches, etc.) functioning.
It's your money, give it as you will. Just give it to somebody.
For 2¢ though, consider a popular mantra inside the Beltway: "The NRA does with a $1 what AFL-CIO can't with $1000." That's an observation by dudes in thousand dollar suits, who are disinclined to give praise unless it's due..
I wised up and dumped them back in 86, when they gave us no warning about the machinegun ban, and then did nothing after to try and get it repealed. Not that they've done much for anything else either, before or after.
The NRA is just another branch of DC politics and needs all the drama and threats, imagined or otherwise, to keep the minions sending in their hard earned cash so they can keep the big salaries and fancy offices.
If they would just sell that high dollar crap off, get people who really cared, who will actually try and get something done, and take some of that money from what they sold, and buy the votes needed to stop this crap, they might be onto something.
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