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Nugent at the NRA meeting.

Discussion in 'Activism' started by General Tso, Apr 17, 2012.

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  1. General Tso

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    Stuff like this is why I cannot support the NRA. I mean whether you support the president or not he is our president.
    This scumbag just compared him to a coyote that should be shot. The NRA should not be involved in political hate speech.


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  2. General Tso

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    I still like the NRA overall but it amazes me that they still keep that nut job Nugent around. He just perpetuates the stereotype that gun owners are all crazy rednecks. I agree, like him or not at least show the President of the United States some respect.
     
  4. General Tso

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    Exactly. I don't wanna make this a political thread and have it locked, I just want to point out that it makes us gun enthusiasts look bad having an idiot like that speaking at your convention. Definitely not gonna bring anyone over to the RKBA side.



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  5. BemidjiDweller

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    Yeah, he totally wasn't speaking metaphorically at all...
     
  6. rajb123

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    I don't think TN speaks for the NRA even though he is a board member.

    I did not find his comments about Obama hurtful. I'm sick of people who are politically correct and who dissagree with someone and then say, "these people should be stopped"

    If you don't like the NRA, don't join...
     
  7. Unistat

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    The fact remains that certain lobby groups and political parties support 2A rights (to a greater or lesser degree) and other lobby groups and political parties do not. The NRA does. They have been doing so for decades, when it wasn't popular and when it was very difficult. Without a doubt we would not have the freedoms we have today if it wasn't for them and groups like them.

    Vote for whoever you want and support (or don't) whatever lobby group you want, but don't cry about it if your rights are taken away.

    Oh, and a fair read of Nugent's comments make it clear that he was making a metaphor and not actually talking about shooting anyone.
     
  8. Rail Driver

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    I gotta say... At least Mr. Nugent has the "intestinal fortitude" (as Major Peppins used to put it), to say what he thinks about the situation. "Our" president does NOT deserve respect, he and his wife have disrespected his office and our nation more times than I can count (for example his hand over his heart during the Russian National Anthem, but hands clasped at his belt during the American National Anthem; His vacations during Veteran's Day instead of attending the ceremony at Arlington; the First Lady's comment during the 9/11 flag folding of "All this for a flag?", etc, etc, etc).

    The president and his wife deserve less respect than we give the coyotes we shoot, in my opinion. We give coyotes a clean, ethical death. They're giving our once great nation a slow, lingering, cruel death. Granted they didn't start it, but they're doing a smashing job of finishing it.
     
  9. tarakian

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    Ted Nugent has been outspoken for gun and hunting rights for as long as he has been able to get people to listen. He is not politically correct, and does not care to be. Why should he have to tone down his opinions because they may not please any given person? He also believes in the first amendment. The speech was clearly metaphorical rhetoric, and in no way a direct threat to the personal safety of Obama. The president is no better by default than any other citizen of this country.

    Respect is not given, it is earned.
     
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    Why is he kept around? Simple, he's a board member elected by the membership.

    At least he's got a pair, and is entitled to his opinion as is everyone else.
     
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    Hey now, thats a new concept!
     
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    And General Tso, you're going to use the Huffington post as a source for your information? I wouldn't do that. Remember the recent "recording" released by NBC. And besides, the NRA is a big tent, it has all kinds of people in it. Don't run from it just because you don't like the words of one individual. That's exactly what the phobes want you to do. Think for yourself.
     
  13. General Tso

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    OK mods. The right wing nutjobs are coming out. Time to lock this one.
     
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    People like TN do far more harm than the far left antis, unfortunately. The extreme 'gun nut' mentality will never help promote the 2A.
    Just because one is a celeb doesn't mean their opinions are good ones.

    He was a hell of an axe player in his prime though, first concert I ever went to.
     
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    Time to lock it? You're the one making personal attacks here (right wing nutjobs? Scumbag? How very high-road of you). All because we don't agree with your assessment of the situation... So it's ok for you to disagree and speak out about it, but it's not ok for someone who doesn't believe as you do?

    General Tso: It seems to me that you're crying out to the mods to lock the thread because the response to your own "political hate speech" wasn't what you expected.
     
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    I'm a fairly NON-P.C. myself, yet Mr. Obama is the president of this great country of ours and should be given the respect the office deserves. We were taught in basic training that we did not have to respect an officer, but we HAD to respect the uniform the officer was waring!! Same concept with POTUS.
     
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    If our opposition played fair, was honest in their dealings, and could have I civil dialogue, I would say Nugent was too much.

    But none of these things are the case.
     
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    general, why do you feel the need to call folks that disagree with you names?

    Real class act!
     
  19. GT1

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    Here is a way to rank him.
    Drop him in a crowd of the people you need to sway and convert, not folks who are already pro-2A. He will do horribly in that crowd. Hell, he'd have them running and screaming to take away all guns from the gun nut. (This is an ongoing problem even without him)

    A poor choice for any kind of spokesman, is Ted Nugent.

    Besides, he crapped himself on purpose at the induction station to get out of serving his country. Respect that if you want....
     
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    Why lock it when the discussion is just becoming fair and balanced?
     
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    Good job not making this a political thread. Just because we don't agree with you, doesn't make us nutjobs. I'll keep the rest of the comments I want to say for myself.
     
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    Nugent is a washed up draft dodging coward. What else needs be said?
     
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    when he takes sides of an issue in FL because he is black and makes it a point to play the race card I have no respect for him... sorry I agree with uncle ted
     
  24. General Tso

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    I tend to think people who don't respect the president are "nutjobs". I apologize if I offended anyone.
    My point I was trying to make (I may have done a bad job making it) was that this kind of rhetoric does not help the RKBA cause. In fact, it hurts it. I gives anti-gun folks more ammo and it makes the stereotype of "crazy gun nuts" seem fitting.
     
  25. jcwit

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    Being as the anti gun crowd already has a warped mindset you may be right. Still no reason for all of us to be politically correct. I normally also speak my mind and let the chips fall where they may.

    My thinking is that is someone has a problem with my viewpoint they have all of 2 options, get over it, or stay upset/offended. Neither option makes any difference to me.
     
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