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NY state gun laws

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Ohen Cepel, Aug 9, 2008.

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  1. Ohen Cepel

    Ohen Cepel Member

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    It looks like NY state will be my next job. Not NYC proper.

    Can someone give me a good simple webpage of the gun laws there?

    Anything you can't have (I know suppressors are out there)?

    Do you have to register everything with the state?

    Is a CCW possible there?

    General stuff like that is what I would like to know so I can plan accordingly.

    I know I usually give the advice to people to stay out of states like NY. However, I don't have that choice now.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. heyjoe

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    every county has its own policies on getting a permit for ccw. in some counties a judge decides and in others the police department does. generally north of westchester county is easier to get a permit than westchester. nassau, suffolk and nyc.
     
  3. ByAnyMeans

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    Heyjoe has it correct regarding CCW. You also need one of those permits to simply purchase a handgun and again the farther North you are the easier it is. The permit you seek is either restricted (target / hunting) or unrestricted for CCW. Nothing is needed to purchase a longgun but your stuck in 1994 regarding the AWB. It continues and the only ones allowed where ones manufactured prior to the ban even if you purchased yours post ban and bring it in to the state now it's a no-no.

    What part of NY ?
     
  4. Prince Yamato

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    What city and county are you going to be moving to? That would help tremendously.

    In general though:

    *You need a permit to even posses a pistol. Your pistols will have to be kept out of state until you get your paperwork in order.
    *CCW is entirely dependent upon the county you wind up in.
    *If you get an unrestricted pistol permit, it is good for life and you can carry pretty much everywhere except for schools and courthouses.
    *There is an AWB that mirrors the old federal one.
    *The only NFA items allowed are AOWs, which are treated as pistols in NYS. You could get a Serbu Super-Shorty if you can get an LEO sign-off.
     
  5. rero360

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    the guys have covered about most of it. also in most of the state for hunting its pistol, shotgun, and muzzleloader only, no rifle, however more and more counties are allowing rifles every year.
     
  6. DragonFire

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    This is completely untrue. New ARs (and the like) are perfectly legal in NYS as long as they don't have certain features like collapsible stocks or flash hiders and such. You can buy new ARs and buy or bring into the state preban rifles that are exempt from the restrictions.

    Most counties required residency for 6 months or more before you'd be allowed to apply for a pistol permit. You do not have to register your long guns, and you can probably find a FFL that can store your pistols until you get a permit.

    Yeah, NYS has alot of requirements but its not the gun-hell that alot a people make it out to be, especially up state.
     
  7. Norton

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    Steve,

    I thought you were trying to get AWAY from this stuff?
    :neener:
     
  8. Ohen Cepel

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    Norton,
    I knew you would be along for a chuckle on this, bit ironic I know. For now it seems like a better option than md though. Had enough of that place already and I'm not into giving them a 3rd chance to shaft me. Figured I would take a different type of beating this time at least :)

    Prince- headed to West Point area, not sure what county that falls into yet.

    Dragonfire- Sounds like hell to me since I'm coming from a free state.

    Would have loved to stay in the South but just couldn't make it happen.
     
  9. Prince Yamato

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    Found this:

    Putnam County

    Cost: @$120

    Eligibility Requirements:
    1.) 21 years old
    2.) Must be Putnam resident for 6 months.
    2.) 4 NY references who have known you for 3 years.
    3.) Background check, mental health check, & finger printing

    Process Time: It can take up to 4 months, but mine was done in about 10 weeks.

    Restrictions: Initial licenses are "hunting & target shooting only." If you specifically ask for a license with no restrictions, i.e. 'full carry', you will have to go before one of the county judges and ask for it. Have no fear, the judge is a reasonable man.

    Purchasing: Purchase ticket system: Buy pistol, seller give you gun info, go to sheriff's office and get info added to your permit for $3, wait 5 or so days and go pick up your coupon, or have it mailed to you. Your first pistol purchase ticket is pre-signed, meaning you can purchase it the day you get it added to your permit.

    Personal Experience: Both the County Clerk's office and the Sheriff's department are friendly and helpful. There is no stigma attached to getting a pistol license in Putnam.
    ===

    Just a thought, but you're pretty close to CT. It would be easy to get a CCW if you lived in CT and commuted to NYS.
     
  10. Prof. A. Wickwire

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    West Point is in Orange County, not Putnam.

    From my understanding, as long as you do not live in Newburgh the same basic guidelines apply as in the rest of the state. I do not know how gun-owner friendly the Judge/County Clerk/County Sheriff are in Orange County. However, the County Executive and the Sheriff are both Republicans (albeit New York Republicans) so that might help.

    Due to a higher crime rate and some drug issues, Newburgh can be a little more challenging.

    Orange County Pistol Permits

    Good luck and welcome to the jungle.

    Sincerely,

    Prof. A. Wickwire
     
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    I have heard several different things about Orange County. Some get the unrestricted and some get restricted. I work with several people that live in OC and it's a mix bag of who has restricted or not. If you can choose a county that is close to West Point, go with Dutchess where it is unrestricted for all who apply. Im not sure about Ulster or Putnam Counties though.
     
  13. Norton

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    Exactly.....just think of all of the new confusing, contradictory and restrictive laws that you'll have an opportunity to learn :D

    At least that part of NY seems pretty nice.
     
  14. Ohen Cepel

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    Great info guys, thanks!

    Norton- At least I was a free man for a few months and loved being back in the South. Hell, now get to carry a mcahine gun everywhere I go:evil:
    Also, from looking it over NY looks better than md as far as ccw goes. Seems that after a pound of flesh and a gallon of blood I have a chance to get a permit in ny, better than the fiasco in md. Does suck though that since they are so crappy to the rest of the nation though that their permit is good no where else. Oh well, the price I pay to be foolish enough to cross the Mason Dixon again (and no, md is not the South for those of you who try to assert it is :)

    SigNY- great advice on Duchess county, I should have some control over where I live and will keep that in mind. No reason to make this suck more than needed.
     
  15. Prof. A. Wickwire

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    Ohen Cepel,

    Go to Handgunlaw and build a map of states that recognize your permit.

    For example my New York State permit is recognized by AK, AZ, ID, IN, KY, MD, MI, MT, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT.

    If you get some of the non-resident permits (i.e. Pennsylvania, Utah) you can open up much more of the country.

    Good luck.

    Sincerely,

    Prof. A. Wickwire
     
  16. Ohen Cepel

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    Prof- I read the map wrong. They accept no one else's (very royal of them) from the way I read it. Plus, the places that I often travel to (VA and NC to see family) therefore don't recognize ny's.

    So, will have to get the "empirial" permit and keep my non-resident permit. Could be worse, could be back in md:evil:
     
  17. Norton

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    :scrutiny:
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  18. Ohen Cepel

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    Norton,
    Just for you man!

    Hope all is well there and that you may also escape someday.

    I would stay in the South is at all possible!

    Looking at the option of living in PA and commuting to the West Point area. Would prefer to stay out of ny if possible.
     
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    New York City does not recognize any handgun permits issued in the remaining 57 counties in New York State. In order to carry or possess in NYC, you must have a permit issued by the city. Possession of rifles and shotguns in NYC, since 1968, requires a NYC rifle/shotgun permit. Possession of percussion pistols and revolvers, throughout the state, is legal without any special permit. However, if you intend to shoot it, it is treated as a modern cartridge firearm and requires a handgun permit. Possessing a loaded percussion handgun without a permit, is possessing an unregistered handgun.
     
  20. yourang?

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    dont even bring your handguns into the state

    you need a license just to possess them

    if you want an ffl to hold them, it has to be one that
    is not in nystate

    very strict about this, so be careful

    long guns, on the other hand, are okay, without a license
     
  21. Prince Yamato

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    CT is closer and has moderately better gun laws the NYS. You still won't be able to bring your pistols into NYS though if you live out of state.
     
  22. Ohen Cepel

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    If I'm able to stay out of ny except for work that it what I'll do.

    Will keep all the firearms out of their jurisdiction as well as all of my money if possible.

    I have no intentions of going into nyc so not worried about that.

    As an odd note though, it's supposed to be allowed under the Sullivan act for a commissioned military officer to carry a sidearm in nyc. Wouldn't try it on a bet since I'm sure I would rot in jail for a loooong time before bloomberg let me out. However, does anyone know if that is true?
     
  23. ZeSpectre

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    Born and raised in upstate NY.
    Left there at age 23 and never looked back.

    All I can say is DON'T DO IT. If there ever was a state good at digging into your pockets then NY is IT!
     
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    Are so bad CA is great in comparison.
     
  25. Prince Yamato

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    Even if you live in CT, you may still have to pay NYS income tax because your job is in NYS.

    Umm... no. You can still get AWs in NYS and you have a greater chance of getting a CCW in NYS. You can also get hi-cap mags as well.
     
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