armoredman
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I don't care what the number is, a limit of any kind is a clear violation of Heller, in my non-lawyer eyes.
NY to restrict Assault Weapons, Limit magazine size to 7 bullets
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The other New York newspaper-- the one that isn't liberal, was talking about the NY AWB. They mentioned that 5 people had been killed in NY by assault riles in the last year. As opposed to the 300 or so killed physically, by1400 handguns, etc (if I'm remembering right). Really surprising that you don't see that mentioned much. 
Agreed. Should this bill pass, it will likely be litigated. We may just find out what SCOTUS thinks those "reasonable restrictions" actually are.
mike.h
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He's already "salesman of the year" at the LGS
I sympathize with those in anti-gun states and hate the idea of throwing anyone under the bus, but maybe you all should just move. PA is a short drive from you and the rural areas are very gun friendly.
Shall issue CCW at $25 for 4 years, no magazine restrictions, no stigma for owning a semi-automatic rifle. If I could have found work in PA, I'd have stayed. But even when I did leave, I moved to an even more gun friendly state where I can hunt with any type of firearm that works and that has Constitutional carry.
Shall issue CCW at $25 for 4 years, no magazine restrictions, no stigma for owning a semi-automatic rifle. If I could have found work in PA, I'd have stayed. But even when I did leave, I moved to an even more gun friendly state where I can hunt with any type of firearm that works and that has Constitutional carry.
PA is gun friendly everywhere thanks to the Uniform Firearm Act. I commute from NYC daily, I'm looking for work instate but no way in hell I'd move back to NJ or NY.
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Apachedriver
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If we're going to assume that everyone can just move away, then how about everyone just stay put in those rotten states? Instead, how about if more pro-gunners move to those states like NY and change the balance of the votes? That's what the left does...moves in, multiplies, and spreads their crappy philosophies. Theoretically, it sounds like everyone one will end up in the South and Southwest. Then we'll have to fight our way back out again, politically speaking.
Because NYC is full of weathy entitled trust fund babys, like Bloomberg who you will never get to change their views.
It will take a generation to make the slightest difference. You can not change the political structure of NY. That's the way it is, and there are enough rich people with more influence , than you as a "comman man" can ever have to effect change.
They are entrenched in NY politics, and will shut you down in a heartbeat if you try to change their system of doing things.
It will take a generation to make the slightest difference. You can not change the political structure of NY. That's the way it is, and there are enough rich people with more influence , than you as a "comman man" can ever have to effect change.
They are entrenched in NY politics, and will shut you down in a heartbeat if you try to change their system of doing things.
jmfc606
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The problem is NYC. If Upstate NY was it's own state we wouldn't have to worry about any of this. My Assemblywoman a Democrat and my Senator a Republican both got A+ ratings from the NRA before the last election. My County is Rural and lightly populated. We can get pistol permits fairly easy. They are good until revoked which means once you have one you pay nothing to keep it and it NEVER has to be renewed. Pistol permits are done on a county by county basis. When I got my permit 20+ years ago it cost less than $100 total. Now with electronic fingerprinting mandatory and a CCW class it costs
about $300. The Gov wants to eliminate this. He wants us to renew every few years at an undetermined cost and wants STATE CONTROL of the process thereby I'm sure making it harder to get and keep your CC Permit. This is going to be a mess, but as others have posted it's time to leave. I Live 10 miles from the PA border as it is so It's time to cross the Delaware river and stay in PA.
about $300. The Gov wants to eliminate this. He wants us to renew every few years at an undetermined cost and wants STATE CONTROL of the process thereby I'm sure making it harder to get and keep your CC Permit. This is going to be a mess, but as others have posted it's time to leave. I Live 10 miles from the PA border as it is so It's time to cross the Delaware river and stay in PA.
Carl N. Brown
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Michael Gormley, "New York Gun Control: Cuomo, Legislative Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapons, Magazines", Huffington Post, 14 Jan 2013.
o limit the size of magazines to seven, down from current NY limit of ten
o the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file NY state legislators
o deal will be debated behind closed doors and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday
o vote Monday would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" to dispense with the three days of public review required under the NY state constitution
More at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/new-york-gun-control-deal-cuomo_n_2472275.html
And again, NYC is dictating to NY state what the gun laws should be, just as Emperor Bloomberg of the Imperial City of the Empire State seeks to dictate to the nation what natonal gun laws [strike]NYC[/strike] Bloomberg wants.
o limit the size of magazines to seven, down from current NY limit of ten
o the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file NY state legislators
o deal will be debated behind closed doors and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday
o vote Monday would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" to dispense with the three days of public review required under the NY state constitution
More at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/new-york-gun-control-deal-cuomo_n_2472275.html
And again, NYC is dictating to NY state what the gun laws should be, just as Emperor Bloomberg of the Imperial City of the Empire State seeks to dictate to the nation what natonal gun laws [strike]NYC[/strike] Bloomberg wants.
Thank you adolf cuomo & his henchman; zig heil !
So what about 22 target shooters with hi standard pistols, s & w 41's, or ruger mkII,i guess they are all going to become criminals now.how are you going to get 7 rd mags for all the older & no longer made pistols? lets remove the statue of liberty & get that giant stalin statue restored & set up in its place. the future of this country & firearms is very grim,folks!
So what about 22 target shooters with hi standard pistols, s & w 41's, or ruger mkII,i guess they are all going to become criminals now.how are you going to get 7 rd mags for all the older & no longer made pistols? lets remove the statue of liberty & get that giant stalin statue restored & set up in its place. the future of this country & firearms is very grim,folks!
mgmorden
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Actually the technical wording I keep seeing is "ammunition feeding device", which includes "fixed magazines, detachable magazines, clips, drums, etc". It wouldn't be hard for the cylinder of a revolver to be interpreted as a fixed ammunition feeding device.
Wrist Rockets are already illegal in NY.
This is really disturbing. I have been a life-long resident of Long Island, and started shooting with my Dad at the age of 7. I've had my pistol license since the age of 18. I shoot NRA high power, and it looks like our rifle of choice will be banned. My Garand might be banned! Cuomo plans to waive the 3-day discussion period that is customary between the time a bill is introduced, and when the legislature votes on it. That vote is expected to take place tonight. Keep this in mind when this enemy of freedom runs for the Democratic nomination in 2016.
By the way, in addition to being labeled a felon with the stroke of a pen, I pay about $4500 in state income tax on a modest salary, $8500 in property tax on a 3-bedroom cape, and 8.625% on everything I buy......so that I can fund someone else's pension. TX is looking good to me!
From their point of view it's a half way measure. Half way between full capacity and zero. If they can get this to stick, then they will go for zero.
They can't. It must be over rulled because of Heller/McDonald. They are just barking at the moon.
jgraham
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Imagine the signs now: "ATTENTION CRIMINALS: Due to new restrictions on magazine capacity, we can no longer offer a warning shot."
BK
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Did the vote occur? Did Cuomo issue the message of necessity?
USAF_Vet
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I could almost understand NY pushing for more gun control in their state if there had been a mass shooting in NY.
CT did not have any restrictions on magazine capacity, and while it would be a measure too little, too late (and still wouldn't prevent a thing), I could understand it if CT implemented a mag capacity law.
NY is having a knee jerk reaction when its someone else whose knee is getting popped with the hammer.
SMH.
CT did not have any restrictions on magazine capacity, and while it would be a measure too little, too late (and still wouldn't prevent a thing), I could understand it if CT implemented a mag capacity law.
NY is having a knee jerk reaction when its someone else whose knee is getting popped with the hammer.
SMH.
They voted for these politicians, let them suffer the consequences.
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