NY to restrict Assault Weapons, Limit magazine size to 7 bullets

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I wonder what happens if the people of new york go out of state to buy ammo?

Nothing to prevent them doing so, unless there are some penalties enumerated in the new law. Certainly no federal restrictions on purchasing ammo outside your state of residence -- though I would not be surprised if Bloomberg, Cuomo, et al start trying to agitate for that to protect their "crime free" paradise in NYC . . .
 
Nothing to prevent them doing so, unless there are some penalties enumerated in the new law. Certainly no federal restrictions on purchasing ammo outside your state of residence -- though I would not be surprised if Bloomberg, Cuomo, et al start trying to agitate for that to protect their "crime free" paradise in NYC . . .

There probably is or will be something in New York law about that, and many retailers in neighboring states might simply refuse to sell to NY residents. Last time I was in Indiana I went to a Walmart not terribly far from the Illinois border, and the employee selling us the ammo looked at our ID just long enough to make sure it wasn't from Illinois, as she wouldn't have been able (Walmart/store policy) to sell it to us without a FOID if we had been from IL.

No law stipulates things like that but they happen anyway
 
I feel sorry for New Yorkers but they did elect their officials.

The silver lining is, the crooks will go to the gun free zone of NY and make the rest of the nation safer.
 
Hmmmmm

Well, I suppose that now the US Rifle Cal .30 M1 (The Garand) is now an 'assault weapon' with the 8-round en-bloc CLIP.
 
Guys how about instead of whining about the "left", "liberals", or really dumb things like succession, you do what I did and give some money to the SAF. We're Americans and we leave no man behind in war and we shouldn't do it here either.

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Don't feel sorry for us in NY as I think Obama is going to do the same thing for the whole US in the next few days by executive order. They are all out of control! I watched the vote last night and the bills were only able to be reviewed for 5 minutes before a forced vote. Something bad is coming.
 
How do you know they didnt gfanikf?

But your point is valid... be an activist.

I'm a lawyer I always assume the worst. :)

But if they did by all means they should tell me. It will be good to know.

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Maybe I should be pleased I just got my Sig 1911 on GB? Might be getting scarce soon...

But this is just one state, and it will be contested in court as soon as possible.

Thank G-d I live in Virginia!
 
Don't feel sorry for us in NY as I think Obama is going to do the same thing for the whole US in the next few days by executive order.
Once more, that is utterly impossible. The government just doesn't work that way.
 
Obama won't do this at the national level. He is too smart to put his name on something like this. Rather, he will continue to have his underlings fall on their own political swords over this. This legislation is coming, but BO's upcoming executive orders will be lower visibility restrictions. Make no mistake about it, legislation is coming on the heels of NY state, but at the congressional level, not executive.
 
And it's going to be a LOT harder to jam through Congress than the embarrassment that just happened in NY.
 
What steps can the citizens of New York undertake to challenge this? I would think the "common use" wording of the Heller decision would apply. After the debacle with the the Journal News, the gun owning people of New York have GOT to be getting fed up....
 
What steps can the citizens of New York undertake to challenge this? I would think the "common use" wording of the Heller decision would apply. After the debacle with the the Journal News, the gun owning people of New York have GOT to be getting fed up....
Give to the Second Amendment Foundation.
 
I wonder how many New Yorkers see the "Big Brother" syndrome at work here. And Cuomo is being touted as the next Democratic PRESIDENTIAL candidate.:cuss:
My god,what has happened to the country I live in!:banghead:
 
I would think the "common use" wording of the Heller decision would apply.

wonder if thats why they came up with the arbitrary number of 7 and will allow the use of the current mags as long as they only hold 7rds... 6 rounds could have been seen as an attempt to ban just about all semi-autos in use.

Its ________ ridiculous!!!
 
You don't think Cuomo did this without talking to Obama? They are all on the same page and their strategy has been thought out. The best part some of the Southern senators want to impeach Obama.
 
New York Senate Passes Gun Control Bill

The New York State Senate set a new record for passing a Bill - Senate Bill S.1422 was submitted by Senator Ruben Diaz (Bronx County). On January 9th, he sent a letter to Gov. Andrew Cuomo complaining that his Bill was being "ignored" by the Senate. The Governor bragged shortly thereafter that New York would be the first State to take serious action on Gun Control, and yesterday, Monday 14 January, that Bill was passed by the Senate. A news report states that the Assembly is expected to pass the Bill today, Tuesday 15th January.

Here are pertinent details:

Republican Sen. Greg Ball called that political opportunism in a rare criticism of the popular and powerful governor seen by his supporters as a possible candidate for president in 2016.

"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

The governor confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, called for a tougher assault weapons ban and restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns, as well as a mandatory police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands.

It would create a more powerful tool to require the reporting of mentally ill people who say they intend to use a gun illegally and would address the unsafe storage of guns, the governor confirmed.

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features spelled out in the law. The proposal would reduce that to one feature and include the popular pistol grip.

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family would be subject to a background check through a dealer. Also Internet sales of assault weapons would be banned, and failing to safely store a weapon could be subject to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge."

Here is a link to the article, in the Glens Falls Post Star:

http://poststar.com/news/state-and-...cle_062f5ece-5e6a-11e2-aeef-0019bb2963f4.html


There is more in this Bill; I will apparently now have to register my Grandfather's deer rifle (a Winchester Model 1907 that he hunted with for 30+ years) as an "assault rifle", and I have one year to get rid of the 2 ten round magazines for it.

The current NY definition of an "assault rifle" limits these features to no more than 2:

A barrel shroud that "surrounds the barrel, permitting it to be supported while firing without burning the supporting hand"

A folding or collapsable stock

A forward support such as a pistol grip

A detachable magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rounds

A bayonet lug

Capablity to mount a grenade launcher

In the new law, pistol grips are included in these "features", and the number of features allowed is reduced from 2 to 1. In other words, you can forget owning an AR-15.



My wife and I are seriously considering selling the house and moving out of the state. I am also wondering what this might mean for the many farmers here in NY - those in the western part of the state are managing coyotes, and now also feral hogs.

The original Bill called for a maximum ownership of 10 firearms by any one person (the old law was 20), and stated that "asssault rifles" could only be legally transported to and from, and only used on a licensed gun range. None of us know what passed the Senate, because any changes (besides the change from 10 to 7 rounds magazine capacity) have not been published.

My fervent hope is that this Bill will be challenged as soon as it is signed, and it will clear the Federal Appeals Court before anyone on Supreme Court retires or dies...
 
Just wait, im sure other states will follow,like maryland, california,this is the beginning of the end. How long before the goosestepping starts again? Heil Cuomo,the new dictator :fire:
 
Have there been instances in NY were 10 round magazines led to the loss of lives?

What likely happened is when banning anything over 10, they didn't see any change (since that's not an answer to begin with) so since that did NOTHING, "let's go for 7". And when murders (by other means, naturally) stay high, well, "we gotta go for more limitations on those EBRs". It makes my brain hurt to try to see any reason is all this stupidity.
 
I think this might be a good thing. The residents of New York voted in their representatives knowing their stances on gun control. Therefore, you can't blame them for wanting to pass gun control bills.

I believe going into the future that the definition of "arms" should be a state right. You can't get everyone to agree on what "arms" is even among gun owners. This way the anti-gun lobby can have their assault weapons ban in the states where their constituents reside. A full on gun ban would still violate the 2nd Amendment, but we already have restrictions on "arms" already in several states.

This will be better than rolling the dice on a supreme court ruling to define "arms" in a federal court.
 
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