Ok the dude is a moron. Im sorry not many other words to use when you BREAK THE LAW. If I saw off the barrel of my shotgun to be more "tactical" and then get arrested I doubt anyones going to defend me because the govs infrindging on my RKBA. You probably dont live in NYS, so I doubt you know its laws very well, Hell I live here and I've spend countless hours reading them just to cover my a$$. Its not defined differently its just when you have the ammuniton and power to make an antique firearm fire you have an operational pistol in NY eyes, and that needs to be registered on a permit. His muzzleloaders are fine if if he has no ammo for them, but the rimfires would have to be on his permit too. And yea, the SAA's and .38s are "illegal handguns" which carry a 5 year sentance. The couple that got me into shooting has over 40 handguns spread over something like 4 pistol permits, so I would assume if they kept going they could get like 80 on 8 permits, this is in Westchester County, but permits apply for handguns here, not rifles. And jezzus dont get me started on how many rifles they have. I defend both, nothings going to change if all gunner move out of NY.