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NYC's Bloomberg to take handgun control national

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Glock-A-Roo, Jan 2, 2006.

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  1. Glock-A-Roo

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/379449p-322247c.html

    Pledge to carry gun battle across nation

    By DAVID SALTONSTALL
    DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF

    Once content to rule the city, Mayor Bloomberg yesterday vowed for the first time to go national - with an all-out effort to crack down on illegal gun sales.
    With the shooting deaths of two NYPD cops still weighing on the city - and with his confidence as a political player clearly rising - Bloomberg promised in his second term to fight the fight over illegal handguns in every forum that matters.

    "We will take our message to Albany, to Washington and to every capital of every state that permits guns to flow freely across its borders," said Bloomberg.

    "And to those who distort our laws to aid and abet hardened criminals, know this," he said, punching the air for emphasis. "We will not rest until we secure all of the tools we need to protect New Yorkers from the scourge of illegal guns."

    Although Bloomberg has talked before about the need for stricter gun controls, yesterday was the first time he pledged to do battle in individual statehouses throughout the U.S.

    The new push underscored the growing sense of urgency in the city surrounding illegal firearms, which helped fuel a 3% increase in shooting victims last year.

    But it also reflected a mayor who, after four years of mostly learning the political ropes in New York, is confident enough to take his game to the national level, experts said.

    Gun control advocates said that as the Republican mayor of the country's largest city - and one of the GOP's most generous donors - Bloomberg could be uniquely positioned to influence the national gun control debate.

    "If he can make an alliance of governors and mayors - particularly Republican governors and mayors - it could greatly help us," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), an author of the Brady Bill, which requires background checks for handgun purchases. "We haven't had a major Republican voice speaking out for gun control in a long time."

    No matter what, with a Texas Republican in the White House and the National Rifle Association still among the biggest givers in Congress, it will be an uphill fight, Schumer added.

    NRA officials could not be reached for comment yesterday, but Bloomberg is already in the group's sights.

    When the mayor talked last month about the need to tighten gun laws after the shooting death of NYPD Officer Dillon Stewart - by a gun stolen in Florida - NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it was "despicable" for Bloomberg to inject politics into the debate.

    Others said Bloomberg's plan to take the fight to states where most of New York's illegal guns originate - with Florida and Georgia being prime culprits - was right on.

    "He needs to go to Florida and say, 'You sell thousands of guns that end up on our streets every year, and one of them killed a police officer in New York. What are you going to do about that?'" said Jackie Kuhls, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence.


    Mike's resolutions

    Mayor Bloomberg's second inaugural address yesterday included promises to:


    Launch a national effort to crack down on illegal guns.

    Speed up the rebuilding of lower Manhattan and create a "sustainable residential and commercial community" - a clear reference to his call for housing at Ground Zero.

    "Lock in and extend" reforms granting mayoral control over city schools, which the state can revoke after 2008.

    Continue to drive down crime and improve public safety, which he called "the foundation of our city's prosperity."

    Be "fiscally responsible." City government "can and must live within its means," he said.

    Originally published on January 2, 2006
     
  2. captain obvious

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    Just keep alienating the rest of the country, New York....
     
  3. Lupinus

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    So your city is a crime infested crap hole you are going to try and come to my neck of the woods and take my guns?

    Try it. You stay in your craphole, I will stay in my neck of the woods.
     
  4. ziadel

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    god I ahve got to get out of new york.

    I'll tell ya this tho, if bloomberg comes up here and tries to take my pistols, well, you can imagine just what I would do.
     
  5. ReadyontheRight

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    Hey guys, don'tcha know if it's good enough for New Yawk City, it's good enough for the world- what an elitist clown, especially since I'm sure he has pleanty of bodyguards carrying to protect his a#$- :cuss:
     
  7. NorthernExtreme

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    Until Drunks admit THEY have a drinking problem they are doomed to fail.

    Until Gamblers admit THEY have a gambling problem they are doomed to fail.

    Until New York (and the rest of the US) admits NEW YORK has a murderous criminal problem it is doomed to fail.

    Denial and pushing the blame onto something else is a common problem for those who suffer from the problem they deny they have.

    Regards,
     
  8. Gunpacker

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    It is a sure bet that any gun used in a NYC crime is likely to be illegal, since there are very few legal guns there. Doesn't surprise anyone. There are illegal guns everywhere, and the answer is to punish those with illegal guns. Seems simple. They break the law, punish them, not me.
    What a deal for the idiot pols from nyc. Just point to a crime and say "illegal gun". Heck, seems like having a gun is the biggest crime in ny.
    Everyone seems to be able to blame someone else for their crime problem. It is Florida's fault because someone stole a gun, and it ended up in nyc. Don't point your finger at nyc citizens who use them, that would be accepting the blame where it belongs, ON nyc CITIZENS. Not my fault. Your fault.
     
  9. boofus

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    And this is why no new yorker, republican or not will ever get my vote for president. I hope neither he or Guiliani are planning on winning the republican nomination in 2008. I'd rather throw my ballot in the ocean or write in a vote for Atilla the Hun than cast a vote for either.
     
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    When you find out, let me know..
    Since when have weapons figured out how to load themselves,
    point themselves, fire themselves and make the distinction of
    shooting police or anyone else for that matter..? If weapons
    can do this, then what is the reason for them having a trigger,
    hammer, sights etc ?
     
  11. Old Dog

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    Apparently, Mayor Bloomberg has realized that he's not smart enough, nor qualified enough, to even attempt to fix his city's real problems, hence, he uses his bully pulpit to spread a message (albeit an ignorant message) that he knows will resonate even with his political opponents, thereby assuring his name and notoriety remain established in the media ...
     
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    The essence of being a liberal--and Bloomberg's that, in spades, regardless of his wealth or alleged party affiliation--is to do anything but the obvious. If he wants to stop crime, he will have to stop criminals--in his own city. Always a touchy problem if you're a bleeding heart liberal.
     
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    I visited my parents in NYC for christmas and it is really amazing. But I am finally getting through to some of the ultra-liberals my parents associate with.

    Anyway, some interesting things I noticed:
    -even though NYC probably has more taxpayers per mile of road than any place on the planet except tokyo, there is barely a 100m section that doesnt have huge cracks and potholes. My relatively podunk county has perfectly maintained roads with manicured medians. No income tax and very little property tax here.
    -NYC probably has more police per square mile than any place on earth that isnt holding a police convention. Yet the police have rarely been able to solve all but the most obvious of crimes (I lived there 18 years) and crime is rising again.
    -NYC spent 40m dollars rebuilding the station under the WTC and then tore it down and rebuilt it again, essentially for no good reason.

    And NYC collects more income and real estate tax than any other place in the country I can think of. My parents got nearly half their money taken last year, even after maxxed 401k contributions. So really, where is all the money going? NYC businesses are making money, NYC taxpayers are making money and the city is collecting a huge chunk of it.
     
  14. Kim

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    Let's build a fence around NYC NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cuss:
     
  15. RealGun

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    Sounds like a setup for Schumer. 'Wonder what they have in mind?
     
  16. Hawkmoon

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    Colour me stupid, I guess.

    The gun used to shoot the officer was stolen in Florida? What does this have to do with ANY sort of gun sales ... let alone illegal gun sales.

    Sold = sold.

    Stolen = stolen.

    Am I missing anything?
     
  17. Zundfolge

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    So how do we go about kicking Bloomberg out of the party?
     
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    When I lived in Manhatten in the mid-80's, it was reported that 35% of the population was on public assistance.
     
  19. mmike87

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    Hey, I am all for cracking down on illeagle gun sales. However, I doubt that is what he really means.
     
  20. longeyes

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    Start digging under the floorboards.
     
  21. TallPine

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    So let me get this straight ... the Democrats haved lost the last two presidential elections over gun control, and this prominent and aspiring "Republican" is now joining up with the Democrats to support more national gun control...? :rolleyes:

    I mean, I knew he was an idiot, but .......:confused:


    Note to Bloomberg: stay out of Montana :p
     
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    Well, there is ALREADY a moat around it, but someone built some bridges over it.:(
     
  23. 22-rimfire

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    I think the anwer is to reduce the amount of gun control in NYC, not talk about more or blame it on other states. Lets start with a reasonable CCW law and get rid of any permits that are required to buy or own firearms. I bet crime goes down.

    I also will not vote for any New Yok candidate for President. I would rather have just about anyone else no matter which party. Hope they get the hint.
     
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    An anti-gun Republican is pretty much the opposite of liberal.

    Just the only good thing about NYC is that it makes Cali look a tad less crummy.
     
  25. AirForceShooter

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    I am sooo happy I'm out of there.
    But this is just political garbage talk.
    Bloomie isn't going to do a thing.

    Did you expect a New York Republican to be like a southern Democrat?

    AFS
     
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