Obama Campaign Threatens To Sue NRA

[robsc]

To enslave a nation, cut them off from the truth. Obama and his campaign are engaging in antiAmerican activity by threatening radio stations. After Obama refered to Sarah as a pig wearing lipstick!

 

[RPCVYemen]

Reason Magazine's Jacob Sullum has a concise but well done breakdown of where the factcheck.org article is wrong.

Wait - that article didn't show that anything the factcheck article was wrong. Did you actually read both. The factcheck article specifically addresses the issue that the Sullum's whining about.

Sen. Kennedy (March 2, 2004): My amendment will not apply to ammunition that is now routinely used in hunting rifles or other centerfire rifles. To the contrary, it only covers ammunition that is designed or marketed as having armor-piercing capability.

Now Kennedy may a be a dunce , but since he claims that he specifically intended to exclude current hunting ammo, then it's clearly misleading to suggest that he intended to include hunting ammo.

factcheck got it right:

We grant that it is a theoretical possibility that some future administration could interpret Kennedy’s language as banning common hunting ammunition, despite Kennedy’s clear statement of intent to the contrary. But we judge the likelihood of that to be vanishingly small, given the outcry that would surely follow.

In any case, what the NRA claims in its TV ad is that Obama “voted to ban virtually all deer hunting ammunition.” There was no such vote. If the NRA wants to argue that Obama’s vote on armor-piercing ammunition could be misinterpreted and applied to hunting ammunition, they should say so honestly.

Why couldn't the NRA just present the issue honestly? I like honesty.

BTW, I still think the suit is silly. But as an NRA member, I'd much rather they tell the simple, unvarnished truth.

Mike

 

[FLA2760]

Carl Brown wrote, "Rebecca Peters of IANSA complained that the First Amendment allowed the NRA to say practically anything it wanted to in opposition to her plan to "reform regulation of firearms" worldwide -- (ie, ban everything but singleshot hunting long guns with a maximum range under 100 meters).

Pesky thing that 1st Amendment.

Given that foreign billionaire George Soros, Becky's sugar daddy, is heavily invested in everything from VPC, Brady Center and MoveOn.org and supporting Democrats, there is a bleak view for both Second and First Amendment rights if that crowd is victorious".


+1 to that.
I am sure an Obama administration would push for the United States to become a member nation of the UN. Then we would have little choice as to whether we would accept the treaty on "small arms" that Peters is pushing. IANSA is our enemy.

 

[Deanimator]

Now Kennedy may a be a dunce , but since he claims that he specifically intended to exclude current hunting ammo, then it's clearly misleading to suggest that he intended to include hunting ammo.

1. His "intent" is irrelevant. What matters is the plain wording of the legislation. If it bans ammunition based on its ability to penetrate a soft ballistic vest, virtually ALL modern hunting ammunition from .223 to .460 Weatherby and beyond would be banned.

2. I find it interesting that you would question the honesty of the NRA, but NOT the honesty of Kennedy. Why couldn't Kennedy just be LYING?

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Now Kennedy may a be a dunce , but since he claims that he specifically intended to exclude current hunting ammo, then it's clearly misleading to suggest that he intended to include hunting ammo.

He wanted to ban the 30-30 by name! Also subject to the ban: 1 oz 12 gauge slugs, and likely 357 magnum/10mm and up handgun calibers.

He may claim it doesn't target hunting ammunition, but actual hunters know better!

 

[RPCVYemen]

What Obama voted for was a measure to ban "armor-piercing" ammunition, which the measure's sponsor has said repeatedly would not cover hunting ammunition.

This claim is based on Obama's vote on S. 397 in the U.S. Senate. Obama was one of 31 senators who voted in favor of S. Amdt. 1615 to S. 397 which sought to "expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition."

The amendment applied only to handgun ammunition "capable of penetrating body armor" and to rifle ammunition that is "designed or marketed as having armor piercing capability," however.

Mike

 

[XD-40 Shooter]

You actually believe Ted Kennedy and the rest of the weasel liberals when they tell you it will exclude hunting ammo? Thats putting a lot of trust in some very dubious politicians.

Seems pretty assanine to try and ban ammo as armor piercing, but then exclude "hunting ammo", all of which from .223 on up will penetrate any vest. Whats the criteria going to be when the libs try to define ammo as armor piercing? Weight, velocity, caliber? LOL at the very people trying to make these definitions know exactly jack squat about guns in general, they are ignorant like the rest of the gun control bufoons.

Remember Carolyn McCarthy? She wanted to ban "barrel shrouds", but could not tell Tucker Carleson of MSNBC what a "barrel shroud" was, she had no clue.

 

[cliffy]

Obama's only chance of financial recovery . . .

relates to sueing to recoup some slight dignity and monsterous financial losses. I would vote, vote, and suggest voting for McCain unless Obama can prove he's a pediphile, which I don't like. Democrats are desparate and untrustworthy regarding their no chance of winning. cliffy

 

[cambeul41]

I would vote, vote, and suggest voting for McCain unless Obama can prove he's a pediphile . . . .

Why would Obama want to prove that Obama is a pedophile? And why do you want to vote for one?

 

[Browning]

Although I'll probably end up voting for him just because he's the slightly lesser of two evils, McCain's almost as bad on Gun Rights as Obama is. Look at their voting record, they're not all that far apart on the issue.

The only thing that REALLY separates them is that McCain and Palin will end up nominating much more Conservative USSC Justices for the upcoming vacancies on the Supreme Court bench than Obama and Biden would.

 

[Vegaslaith]

We should all tell our local news media about this attack on the first amendment.

 

[moooose102]

obama's campaign will only try to sue if they loose. that being said, the NRA lawyers had better start working!!! Obama=venomous snake in the grass!