Obama Elected = Record Gun Sales

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Have any of you considered that the Obama supporters arming up are doing so in case they "get the call" to help rid the "Changed" country of now unwanted elements? this is a legit question.

History has seen this before...
 
People like you, and many other who are ignorant of history, really get on my nerves
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It appears you've driven off the high road!:uhoh:

BTW, nice handle!:D

CRITGIT
 
Just think the kind of message we will be sending to the new elected administration with the new stimulus checks that they say will be issued soon.

America's voice should be heard...
 
Ok, remember where you are. If this doesn't crawl back up on the high road it's going to end up locked in the swamp.
 
I didn't even really believe the newspaper articles until I went into the local shop today and it was cleaned out of everything except hunting rifles and revolvers. And I'm not exaggerating. It really was cleaned out. In one respect it's makes me take pride in the fact that 2A really is important to Americans. On the other hand, it makes me think, "what does it say about the president-elect, that the first thing Americans do after his political win, is buy hordes of guns?" That's kind of a scary thought. Never-the-less, that is the reason the founders intended for us to have weapons; to keep us safe at night from tyranny.
 
The way I see things, buying up large amounts of MAGAZINES is the smart move right now.

Under the Clinton gun ban, you could still pick up new AR-15's, albeit without bayonet lugs and telescoping stocks. However, finding magazines with a capacity greater than ten rounds proved to be tricky.

Odds are that manufacturers are producing as many magazines as they can, as they were the components most affected by the law.
 
(wap bap a boom boom tooty fruity a bap bam boom).Now lets all throw are hands in the air and sceam the sky is falling
 
Oh, he'll reintroduce it alright.

Obama believes his own BS. And he really does believe he's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Hence, the AWB is certain to come back. I believe it will be one of the first things he does when he takes control. For the children and in the name of "common sense" gun control.

Additionally, he *will* go after the ammo. Democrats may not be "stupid" but they also know which wing of the Party put them in power. Kennedy has introduced a bill, I believe every year, to ban ammunition. It provides great cover for the Democrats towards their ultimate goal of banning guns from the masses and in their minds satisfies "Heller". So both hicaps and at a minimum milsurp, will be toast.

I'm also certain the other first things he'll do is to ban offshore drilling, institute a Fed gas tax of $.50 - $1.00 a gallon and reintroduce the 55mph national speed limit. For conservation of course.
 
Mike,you must mean the 1994 revolution.
And I agree, because of '94 and the resulting 10 years of GOP control I see no Son of AWB on the horizon.
Maintaining control means everything.And they're not going to blow it on the gun issues.Not now.
That boiling frog needs a LOT more time to simmer.
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As a Democrat (yes, i said it - don't shoot), this is a lot closer to reality than a lot of people would have you believe.
Gun laws are a losing battle for us. We pass a gun law - kiss any power or influence we have in Washington goodbye. We know this, you know this, the whole world knows this. Doesn't even touch the fact that the '94 legislation took years and years and years to get pushed through, help remove Democrats the congress, and by and large wasn't nearly as effective as some of the far left loonies would have people believe. Many of us never supported it the first time around, and even less would support it this time.
Gun laws are so far down on the list of priorities, it's been virtually abandoned from the party platform. I mean, we run pro-gun candidates in many districts now. It's just not a can of worms any of us want to open. Certainly not given the number of other issues on the table, of which anti-gun legislation would simply distract from. You still get a few people here and there that will introduce legislation from time to time - but, where does it go?
 
Wow...such confidence in your party failing to follow through with their own platform planks. I hope you are right, but I doubt it. Democrats are riding so high on the "anybody but Bush" mandate, that I think they believe now is the time to pass the most radical legislation they have in their arsenal. I guarantee a new AWB is coming, and the AR-15 in civilian hands will be a thing of the past.
 
M&P
If we were going to take up a new AWB - it would be 6257 - which was introduced by Republicans back in June I believe it was. We're not, because it's not worth the fight.
If we spend all our time fighting over gun bans, that's time we can't be fighting about redistribution of wealth, and the second coming of uncle Karl (marx). :)
 
One other simple way I know gun bans aren't coming for a long time - bare minimum 2 years before anybody even thinks about it.

Harry Reid is from Nevada (as am I). Harry Reid is running the senate. Nevada is probably about as pro-gun a state as there is in this country. If Mr Reid wants to not get lynched upon arriving back to Nevada, gun laws are the last thing he will come close to.
We've already made our distaste for the senator from Nevada known, and he knows he's already on extremely thin ice back here. He even considers anything like this - and he's done.

As goes Harry, so goes Nancy.
 
The prudent man hopes for the best, but prepares for the worst.

Sounds like a lot of people are preparin'. I can live with that.
 
Both parties have a history of going against those who oppose them. The NRA has been a thorn in the side of Democrats for many years and the unions have been the same for repubs. Why? Because they use money and power to influence elections.

The parties will always go after those who have money and power to take it away from them. To control the guns is to take the power of the NRA away is their foolish thoughts but people have learned to fear this and are putting money where their mouth is.

Because the socialist use incrementalism they will work in gerrymandering to get the most socialist able to vote and make gun laws that cover those able to vote.

Look at America and her freedoms years ago and how the socialist have prepared us by PC for today.

jj
 
Mike,you must mean the 1994 revolution.
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Oops - you are right. Sorry about the typo.

We pass a gun law - kiss any power or influence we have in Washington goodbye.
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It's is certainly odd how every Democrat who posts to this board seems to know this ...

The NRA has been a thorn in the side of Democrats ...
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Actually - to give the NRA credit - they did support pro-gun Democrats in the last mid-term election.

However, I am concerned about their power to influence the president elect, given the scurrilous attacks they made on him - most of which were untrue - as checked by FactCheck.org.

My guess is that AHSA will have the new administration's ear when it comes to any kind of gun legislation. But that's the way American politics work - to the victor go the spoils.

There is a difference between endorsing a candidate, and firing up a mendacious attack campaign on his opponent.

The NRA-ILA wanted to rouse the membership - to fill their own coffers, and decided that was more important than political influence in the near future. Who knows? Maybe they were under the delusion that they would somehow call out cavalry and rush in and save the day for McCain, and he would forever be indebted to them.

They could have accepted Obama's policy statements at face value, and explained that they still endorsed McCain, and I don't think it would have cost them.

But they calculated that a vitriolic campaign that impugned Obama's honesty was better strategy, and that it might save the election for John McCain. Oops - they were very wrong. And the penalty for being that wrong in American politics is a loss of influence, as long as the candidate you derided is in power.

The strange thing is that their miss-calculation snatched defeat from the jaws of victory! They had won. The Democrats were saying, "Whatever we might want to do, more restrictive gun control legislation not no politically possible". That is in itself a huge win for the NRA (and the RKBA). An endorsement of McCain, with the note that both candidates accepted the the RKBA as was in the Constitution would have been a great response. Unfortunately, they bet everything on the wrong horse. They let their Republican controllers lead them to a massive defeat.

So I don't expect any AWB to pass Congress, but I also don't expect the NRA to be invited to dinner at the White House any time soon. :)

So I joined the AHSA. Now I am a member of the NRA, the ACLU and the AHSA.

Mike
 
You still get a few people here and there that will introduce legislation from time to time - but, where does it go?
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Yep - people will introduce all kinds of bills. My bet is that a repeat of the AWB never makes it out of committee.

Mike
 
What you guys haven't factored in is the economy. The last depression brought out some of our most notorius thugs and the 1934 gun control act to make buying a machingun difficult. Suppose they start taxing your rights and driving up prices so you can't afford your rights, what then???

jj
 
It's getting crazy. I was in the Green Mountain Guns (Lakewood, Colorado) to pick up another Ruger:D and I had to leave my gun in the store because there was an 8 hour wait on my background check!!! According to the guys in the store there were almost 600 people ahead of me in the State of Colorado alone!!! I just filled the form out and I will pick it up on Monday.

They are running dry. They can't keep the "evil guns" in the store. Anything with an ominous tactical bent is selling out. If it has a clip that holds more then 9 rounds it is selling like hotcakes. I was aware because of reading about it here but it was something to see it for myself. I better pick up my evil gun ASAP.:rolleyes:
 
Jim,with all due respect ,I think Prohibition for 13 years(1920-1933) ,with thousands of thug's spraying machine fire all over America(not just Chicago!)battling over booze turf
had much more to do with the passage of the NFA in 1934 than the Depression and the coming of FDR's New Deal Socialism.
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So you think this depression with all the hate and bitterness won't cause enough violence that new gun laws are made??? You think that just because the booze trade is gone that the mexican drug trade has dissapeared?? Look around a bit on Lou Dobbs about the drug trade and how the violence is moving our way.

When the economy gets bad enough alot of people are going to do bad things. Thus a reason to steal our guns.

jj
 
I don't know if Pilot and Jim are betting men but I'm going on record as saying there will no new AWB or any new stringent gun laws anytime in the foreseeable future.It's too politically incendiary for the Donkey's.1994 revisited.No way.
Course I've been wrong before but a bottle of Johnny Walkers finest goes to you both if I'm not right
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Let me think about a better payment if either of us is wrong but the bet has to cover taxation of ammo too. Why? because I don't drink Walkers. I do have an idea though but I need to check on things for a day or two just to make sure the bet can be carried out. LOL

Then we both list the bet and the payment for losing. It won't even cost as much as Walkers:D:D What say you??

jj
 
How about, the last gun wars we had was when the Clintons went into Waco and killed over 80 men women and childeren. The war escalated to a bombing in Oaklahoma City which killed scores more of innocent people.

If Obama does go after the guns it will be state by state with his support. So if any state has any new controls added then you have to call a florist in Oaklahoma City and send flowers out to the memorial for all the innocent people who died in the last war to steal our guns.

Nothing fancy for flowers but a note attached with your sentiment added.

This bet goes to the end of his presidency.

jj
 
The war escalated to a bombing in Oaklahoma City which killed scores more of innocent people.
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So Tim McVeigh had no responsibility at all? It was just a war that escalated out of control, and all those kids in the day care center were collateral damage?

Good call - you've convinced me.

Mike
 
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