Obama on CNN says he will ban Assault weapons

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After the The Pat Act and Military Commission Act 2006 anything's possible!
How come nobody here is as outraged over the those bad boys . One stripped us od habeas Corpus...which is little more than the basis for our democracy.
I bet if it were the product of "that one" we'd hear about it!
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Since you are so passionate about how lousy Bush is, and I agree, though for different reasons; could you please enlighten those of us that are interested, as to just how the Pat Act and Military Commission Act have ACTUALLY impacted or effected your life?

Enquiring minds want to know.

There is a big, big difference between the Patriot Act and Military Commission act and an AWB that affects upwards of 80+ million of the population.

Edited to add: I'm not looking to argue with you over the merits of either provision, I just want to know how either one has remotely affected you.
 
Don't forget, guys, it will be the liberal MEDIA that will be pushing this assault rifle ban more than the politicians.
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I think that is the key factor that will allow him to pull off mega gun control when he chooses. In a country of 300,000,000 people, a few will screw up and commit a high profile murder. The media can amplify that (or whatever else they choose) X 1000.

Remember, an awful lot of Americans aren't very good problem solvers. They make decisions based on the last emotion that they felt. Easy prey for the media. I'd mention the recent election here but that would be rude. :D

The major media hand carried "the messiah" to victory and as long as he remains in favor with them we are going to be like speed bumps to him.
 
I can't find that clip anywhere. When did he say it?
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Right on the campaign website... under "urban policy".

"Don’t tell me we can’t uphold the 2nd amendment while keeping AK47s out of the hands of criminals"
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-Obama
This is a quote regarding the only gun he knows the name of... by saying "criminals" he really means American citizens.
 
Just because Hitler didn't come to power immediately after writing Mein Kampf didn't mean that he had had a change of heart.

In this case, the man has made his position clear, has a track record to support it, and has given me no reason to believe otherwise. By putting a worst case assumption on it I am only protecting my own interests.

Everything else is speculation. There's enough of that as it is.
 
These laws will happen after this new administration realizes it can't solve all of the problems it promised to and will need to go after "fringe"/"fluff" issues to make it seem they are working hard to protect us.
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this is an insightful comment
 
The liberals want "change" and they want it fast, the big O and I don’t mean Oprah, will give them want they want so he can have a place to call home in another 4 years. I saw him on TV saying he was not coming after my grandfathers shot gun, oh yeah its not registered, that why he’s not coming after it

Remember, its not what you say, its how you don’t say it. :D
 
Am I the only one who is troubled by the constant use of the phrase "hunters and sportsmen"? I can't count how many times I've heard Obama/Biden say that America's "hunters and sportsmen" have nothing to worry about. By "hunters and sportsmen", they undoubtedly mean low-capacity long-gun users. Seems to me that, by simple deduction, the rest of us could have plenty to worry about.

I've lived in Britain, and from what I understand, the language of the media and the politicians sounded very similar to this while thier gun rights were being taken away. Gun-owners simply haven't caught onto the divide-and-conquer language of the media and politicians. If the "hunters and sportsmen" have "nothing to fear"... those who own guns for other purposes probably do.

If the clay-shooters/deer hunters don't stick up for the EBR and personal defense-oriented shooters, I think it is very likely that we will take a step in the wrong direction in the not-so-distant future.
 
This could be the end of Freedom in America

A disarmed American Citizen would become the beginning of Communism in America. Are we ready for that? Do we have a choice? How can we fight back? Can even GOD fight Communism? cliffy
 
I think the points about withholding federal funding alla 55mph speed-limit are valid. The economy is in a recession and it would be really easy to say something like, "Well, we want to give the states money, but we want to make sure it doesn't go to criminals. Therefore, if the states want this money, they have to ban CCW and AWs, which as we all know, only criminals conceal weapons and those weapons are AWs."

Keep fighting folks, we're in for a long haul.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

from that clip, Obama's stance is listed as
-revive and make perminant assault weapon ban
-nationally ban concealed carry
-rights of local governments to set it's own gun laws

Don't the first 2 contradict the third?

If he is for local gov setting their own gun laws, he should then support a city, county, or state that wants to have concealed carry and assault weapons
 
Oh Boy, I usually don't bit on these threads but tonight I will.

The bottom line is that at some point during Obama's presidency gun control is going to come up. Who knows if it will be a new AWB or some other gun control law. There is good news and there is bad news depending how you want to view it

Obama was elected to fix the economy....period. The fact of the matter is that people care more about the amount of money in their pocket (or how will the government make "my" costs less) than about anything else including their constitutional rights. Gun control is not one of his forefront issues in fact I am stunned about how little gun control was covered in this election it's a hot button issue that no politician wants to talk about. Yes I know its been mentioned nationally but compared to everything else going on its gotten little coverage.

The bad news is it will take one messed up teenager with his dads CIA Romanian AK to have a school shooting and 100 years of gun rights will be erased in the name of "protecting our children" by the dems in power...bottom line (yes we all cringe at that thought)

I view the wost case scenario as 'starting' to take effect a year form now, when new 'serious' legislation takes effect in 2010 (and Gun Control is on the medias agenda) after Obama has had a year to add band-aids to the economy. And an additional 1/2 year till it's rammed through congress and eventually take effect. This could or could not happen...I mean if everyone purchased one less magazine and joined NRA/GOA and wrote there representatives... life for us would be better.

One needs to plan however you see it. Personally I've been planning since the last ban ended. I'd like to go shoot my AUG with my future Son (or Daughter). If your new to firearms make a list of what you might want for the future get what you can NOW...cause it wont get any better. If your a serious collector chances are pre-85 and pre-91 stuff price wise wont change much out side of normal inflation and you've been ready out side of that Valmet mag you need. The real killer for us is the new shooter generation and the new stuff like the FN SCAR ect. that we wont be able to have.

The next few years will be challenging, i hope it works out for us.
 
The end of the world is near.

Not to worry, according to the Mayan calender and other dooms-day prophets, Dec 21, 2012 is the end of the world as we know it so buy the best rifle you can now, stock up on ammo now and be ready for worldwide disaster, famine, disease, plagues, etc....:D
 
I hope he understand that "Assault weapons" are fully auto weapons, not semi auto AR15s...but then again who am i kidding...
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No... "Assault Rifles" are full auto... An "Assault Weapon" is a fabricated term used to push legislation.
 
I don't see why some are surprise. He always said he was for the AWB (scary looking guns) and repeal of CC. Look for high taxes on Ammo. I would not be surprised if they quickly come up with laws saying you can only have 50rnds. Don't forget Ammo Serialization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppekgor-jE
 
Quote by rob b:
"obama better worry about fixing our screwed economy and other things the USA needs NOT worry about stripping the rights of HONEST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS because he is messed up in the head when it comes to guns."



Having said that, and having vented your feelings..you're right...
However, he still has an agenda, and he doesn't care what we think about it.
Stay pro-active..............:uhoh:
 
I'm not too worried, I live in a gun loving state run by conservatives.

I think it would be difficult for him to do that, it doesn't fit the times. Gun and CCW permits are much more popular today than they were in '94. Plus the guy looks like a deer caught in headlights, he looks so much more nervous now that he won. I doubt he would tackle something so large, and unimportant so quickly. His main focus has to be the War on Terror and the economy.

But, lets not get caught with out pants down.
 
I think this one has run its course.

Given: Obama wants to ban guns.

Given: Obama is on record in various places as wanting to ban guns.

Given: These on-record statements have a habit of vanishing once they are found and reported in the popular media.

Given: Obama's on-camera rhetoric has been studiously centrist on this issue ("I am not going to take your guns").

The question is what this all means. The problem is no one knows, and absent new information we just chew over the same old facts like a dog with a bone.

Find something new, and we can discuss its implications for RKBA. Otherwise, you want to be in the Activism forum doing something besides sitting on your kiester and posting strongly worded missives on a gun board.

Get active, or be silent about this. Because, make no mistake, putting a sic semper tyrannis post on a gun board will not change what is coming.

Mike
 
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