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Obama suggests Republicans unwilling to compromise in gun control debate

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 2ifbyC, Jan 27, 2013.

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  1. 2ifbyC

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/27/obama-gun-control-advocates-should-listen-more/

    President Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.

    “The House Republican majority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Republican and may not feel compelled to pay attention to broad-based public opinion, because what they're really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies,” the president said in an interview with The New Republic.

    Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support for many of his upcoming initiatives, but “I can't get enough votes out of the House of Representatives to actually get something passed. … I think there is still shock on the part of some in the party that I won re-election.”

    The president said he has a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that date back for generations.

    He said that moving forward on the topic means understanding that the realities of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas.

    He said it's understandable that people are protective of their family traditions when it comes to hunting so “gun-control advocates also need to do “a little more listening than they do sometimes” in the debate.

    The interview appears in the Feb. 11 issue of The New Republic.

    Obama also said one of the biggest factors in the gun-control debate will be how it is shaped by the media.

    “If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News or by Rush Limbaugh for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you’ll see more of them doing it,” he said. “I think John Boehner genuinely wanted to get a deal done, but it was hard to do in part because his caucus is more conservative probably than most Republican leaders are, and partly because he is vulnerable to attack for compromising Republican principles and working with Obama.”

    The president argued that “the more left-leaning media outlets recognize that compromise is not a dirty word” and that party leaders, including Senate Majority Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, are “willing to buck the more absolutist-wing elements in our party to try to get stuff done.”

    Has Obama himself ever fired a gun? Yes, he says, he and others shoot skeet frequently at the president's Maryland retreat, Camp David.

    The president also said much of the challenge in Washington is to make Americans feel that national politics is indeed connected to their day-to-day realities.

    “And that’s not an unjustifiable view,” he said. So everything we do combines both a legislative strategy with a broad-based communications and outreach strategy to get people engaged and involved, so that it’s not Washington over here and the rest of America over there.”

    Well, yeah…

    Could it be that we have learned what “compromise” means when negotiating with Obama? Or is it because we have seen no initiatives other than gun control take on the full weight of the White House to ram their passing? Or maybe he does not understand the meaning of the term “infringement”. Or maybe he does not understand that gun rights extend beyond his narrow use of hunting or skeet shooting?

    Or maybe, deep inside, he knows he has taken on a fight that he is destined to lose?:eek:

    Please help Obama understand why we are not compromising.:banghead:
     
  2. black_powder_Rob

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    “The House Republican majority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Republican and may not feel compelled to pay attention to broad-based public opinion, because what they're really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies,” the president said in an interview with The New Republic.


    Wow, foolish me I thought that is what representatives were supposed to do, you know represent their constituencies. What maroon.
     
  3. browneu

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    This is why we need to continue to write our representatives.

    Obama believes he's speaking for the people when he's not.

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  4. Gaiudo

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    Good to see that the backpedaling and CYA is starting now that political reality is starting to set in. Let's keep pressing on our reps!
     
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    Obama does not compromise on the Debt Ceiling or Spending. Neither can you find the truth out about his birth certificate, His youth or his college education or Benghazi or Fast and Furious or........
     
  6. mokin

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    I hope that in this instance, the President is correct. I also hope that it is not only just the Republicans who refuse to compromise but also the Democrats who were elected in very pro 2A districts. I think, if everybody else out there who is writing thier representatives is also sending mail to the White House, the President may be starting to get a clue about how the people feel on this issue.
     
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    In all fairness, he also said this:



    Quote from above....

    Agreed.
     
  8. Silent Bob

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    "Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support..."

    Our President fails to remember that we are a republic, not a democracy (thank God)
     
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    This quote is from an acquaintance of mine on a discussion of the term 'modern sporting rifle' - it doesn't sound like there is room in the lefts side for compromise:


    "modern sporting rifle" is the more palatable sounding marketing euphemism for "paramilitary assault weapon." just based on casual observation at the local gun shows, all the white supremacists, neo-nazis, and right-wing teabagger militia types within hundreds of miles come crawling out from under their rocks and are drawn to the bushmasters like dung beetles to, well, you know.
     
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    Compromise!!! Why should elected representatives compromise and see the very Constitution the swore to protect and defend torn apart.
     
  11. Hoppes Love Potion

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    Why doesn't Obama compromise by rolling back the 1968 Gun Control Act? Then we might see he is serious about "having a dialog" about guns.

    No? Then he should stop talking about compromise.
     
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    "Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support..."

    This is EXACTLY the problem with a HUGE number of politicians these days.

    Just because 50.00001% of the people want to oppress 49.99999% of the people, it doesn't mean they should be allowed to.
     
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    so what is omaoma wanting to give up? compromise is not 1 sided....
     
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    He's cottoned on, huh? My stars and garter bars, the man is uncommonly astute! Most of the other antis seem not to have figured it out yet.

    If my eyes roll any harder, they might fall out.
     
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    yeah, he isn't offering any compromises. There has been no talk of any. The only offers have been one sided demands.

    Start talking removal of sporting purposes needed for import and we have compromise. But considering the bans are all talking "that's not sporting" I doubt that's on the table is it.

    Start talking registering new machine guns and we have compromise.

    edit addition:
    the majority of democrat representatives are from safe districts as well. Half truths are another form of lying.
     
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    Obama wants conceeding, not compromising.
     
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    Poor Mr. President. Somebody call the wah-mbulance!
     
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    This is the Big Lie, right here. This idea is far more dangerous than any other they're putting forth.
     
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    That's because to him, "compromise" means "give me everything I want and shut up".
     
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    What do you think BLB? Think they will end up with special bans for the urban areas?
     
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    With the Republicans so dirty about losing the election I'd be surprised if Obama was able to get a rise in jay-walking fines passed without an executive order let alone gun restrictions passed.
     
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    Would this be the same American public out buying firearms and ammo faster than they can be produced?
     
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    I believe the concern is that the statement separates sporters and hunters from urban shooters. Those in rural settings using hunting rifles urban settings using "assault weapons".

    Essentially he could make the argument that a ban will only effect urban centers which, we all know isn't true.

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    There is no compromise. What is so damn hard to understand in the sentence "shall not be infringed". Current gun control laws are unconstitutional at best. If I was in congress or senate I would be pushing for repealing the NFA and Lautenberg.

    As a card carrying member of the Republican party I can tell you straight. I will actively
    campaign and vote out any member of the Republican party who votes for any new gun control

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    As I see it we either have the right to arms or we dont, which is it. You cant compromise away a right they wont stop nibbling. No AWB No magazine limits. They should never have got the NFA
     
  25. Fishslayer

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    They ARE listening and good for them.
     
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