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Odd survey that I had to take for class...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Moparmike, Apr 6, 2004.

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  1. Moparmike

    Moparmike Member

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    I had to take this survey for my American National Government class. I found it odd that someone would create a survey that in essence told you nothing.

    Comments about it?

    BTW, I was a New Prosperity Independent. Whatever that means. Unfortunately, their description makes it sound like I dont like black people.:confused:
     
  2. fjolnirsson

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    Hmm, New Prosperity Independent also. Funny survey.
    Their description of my values could hardly be more incorrect.
    Seems to me like typical liberal viewpoints on anyone who doesn't toe the line, or who believes in the value of hard work. :barf:
     
  3. Yowza

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    It told me I'm a staunch conservative, but judging by the description they give on the site, that doesn't really fit me very well. Whatever.

    Rick
     
  4. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    There's a lot of false dilemmas in there, and a lot of biased language in the descriptions of the typography.

    It didn't strike me as a good survey tool, in the scientific sense.

    After all, it labelled me as a "Staunch Conservative", in their scheme, despite intentionally pinging the liberal slant on social issues, while hitting the conservative slant on biz/gov/military.
     
  5. FPrice

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    "Your answers indicate that you are in the Staunch Conservative category."

    "Staunch Republicans:
    COMMENTS: As in 1994, this extremely partisan Republican group's politics are driven by a belief in the free enterprise system and social values that reflect a conservative agenda. Dissatisfied with the state of the nation, Staunch Conservatives pay close attention to what is going on in politics and are highly vocal.
    DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-military, pro-life, anti-gay and anti-social welfare with a strong faith in America. Anti-environmental. Self-defined patriot. Distrustful of government. Little concern for the poor. Unsupportive of the women's movement.
    WHO THEY ARE: Predominately white (95%), male (65%) and older. Married (70%). Extremely satisfied financially (47% make at least $50,000). Almost two-thirds (63%) are white Protestant."

    I have to take issue with some of their characteristics here. I am not quite "anti-gay". I am opposed to the current push to get the homosexual life style defined as just another normal way of life.

    "Anti-environmental" is a stretch.

    "Little concern for the poor". Gee.

    As far as I can tell, just another test biased by the organization's view of things.

    http://www.pewtrusts.com/about/index.cfm

    Still does not disclose much about their agenda. Maybe someone else knws.
     
  6. Iain

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    Apparently I don't like black people either.

    On the bright side apparently 38% of us 'New Prosperity Independants' have college degrees. I don't remember answering any questions about my education or gender so where are their figures coming from?

    As with any attempt to pigeonhole people the groups are too broad, the questions too 'one or the other' and the whole thing generally clumsy.
     
  7. Greg L

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    New Prosperity Independent too.

    According to them I like Bill Clinton :confused: . Um, nope, last time I checked I hadn't completely lost my mind :rolleyes: .
     
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    Staunch Conservative on mine, but the description given was way off base compared to what my answers were.:scrutiny: Some of the questions were unanswered due to the lack of an acceptable answer.
    Pro-free enterprise, pro-smaller government, pro-keep the Judeo-Christian Taliban out of peoples' lives and bedrooms letting them live the way they choose, pro-freedom and liberty, and that makes me a staunch conserative? :confused:
     
  9. Don Gwinn

    Don Gwinn Moderator Emeritus

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    Well, they're nucking futs, I can tell you that. They got me almost entirely wrong:



    They have a pretty strong statist bias in there. You can't possibly care what happens to black people, for instance, unless you want a government program to hand success to black folks with a bow tied around it. You should also be of the belief that racial discrimination is a bigger problem in America today than the actions of the black community in holding itself back. I guess William Raspberry, Clarence Paige, Condoleeza Rice and Alan Keyes don't care much about blacks. :rolleyes:


    As someone said, lots of false dichotomies. I could gladly have checked both boxes on that first question, for instance. Number one came closest, though, and I suppose that's what they asked.
     
  10. Unlucky

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    I chose Republican, because I usually default to that when it comes time to vote and they labeled me as "staunch conservative" despite the fact that I don't care about homosexuality and am not religious.

    Going back, I changed my affiliation to "independent" and I suddenly become a "new prosperity independent."

    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Jim March

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    Simple. They wouldn't know what a Libertarian was if one bit 'em on the tushie, 'cept of course we won't initiate force...:)
     
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    Jim: There are moral and ethical reasons to initiate tushie biting.

    I guess you hadn't considered mutual consent :what:
     
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    I'm a "New Prosperity Independent". Gack. Wouldn't know a Libertarian indeed.

    And talk about biased/slanted questions and false dichotomies! I don't even know why I bother taking quizzes like these; they only serve to irritate me.
     
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    What a crock -

    It claims that I am a "Staunch Conservative"

    I guess they didn't feel like putting a "Radical Libertarian" category in, so anybody who's not a Liberal must be a Conservative, right?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Not! I complain about almost everything.
    No to former, yes to latter.
    Hey, pro-everything!
    Sympathetic to all, but don't want to be forced to fund.
    Yep.
    I'm 60...otherwise on target.

    I agree with those that didn't think it was a very good or fair test.

    MR
     
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    Another libertarian labelled as a "Staunch Con".

    From my conversations with co-workers, friends, etc. it would seem that the libertarian viewpoint is pretty similar to what used to be call conservative except on personal freedoms issues.

    I've always thought of myself as a classical liberal.

    I guess that the labels really don't have much meaning anymore.
     
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    Heck,
    I'm "disaffected"....not exactly a flattering category (or correct for that matter).

     
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    "New Prosperity Independent."

    A rather stupid and statist survey.
     
  19. Dex Sinister

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    I liked this part:

    New Prosperity Independents are moderate, young to middle-aged voters whose affluence, Internet savvy and stock market investments lead them to strongly endorse the status quo. But while 55% of this group, which strongly favors both handgun control and a capital gains reduction, approve of Clinton, just 24% are inclined to vote for Gore...

    Yeah - another "hardline libertarian for gun control":banghead: <cough, hack>

    Dex }:>=-
     
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    Yow, its one thing for these poll/quiz things to have a few questions that you find it difficult to answer, but almost every one of those questions was horribly written. Some didn't even seem mutually exclusive, let alone space-covering.
     
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    Yeah, but responding to force, now...
     
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    That's kinder than my comments would be.

    Bogus. Bogus is the word I'm looking for. Am I a "Republican, Devilcrat or Independant"? Ummm. No. I left most everything blank, and ended up "Disaffected"
     
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    The link to the "Pew Research Center's most recent typology report (November 1999)" has their attention at that time focused on the then-upcoming election. Big issues were "HMO reform" and whether Bill Bradley or algore had better chances against "Governor Bush" (lessee; Bradley: oh, yeah—basketball player/Senator, big friendly guy. What else did he do? I don't remember).

    The landscape and the issues have changed so much since 1999 that the poll is an interesting historical artifact, if that. Dichotomies like
    are things for which the average person has a lot more data to work with than were in the public eye in 1999.

    Further note: this small-l libertarian came up as "disaffected;" 8% college degrees? Ha! When I then clicked past the questionnaire to get to their links again as I was writing this (answering no Q's as I did so), it gave the same result: "disaffected." I guess I could've saved some time there. :neener:
     
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    I scored 100% libertarian on the "World's Smallest Political Quiz", but I'm a New Prosperity Independent? :confused: What a crock . . .
     
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    uummm, very slanted. I took a criminal justice class last semester and one thing that was stressed very much was correct interpration of statistics. this survey seems to do everything that we were warned about.
     
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