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Officer shoots 16 year old boy twice

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TheeBadOne, Dec 18, 2003.

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  1. TheeBadOne

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    Baltimore Officer Attacked During Struggle With Suspect

    BALTIMORE -- A teenager was shot twice Thursday after cutting an officer with a knife, police said.

    The shooting occurred about 5:25 a.m. after the officer responded to a vandalism report. The unidentified teenager, who was shot in the chest and arm, was taken to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center, where he was listed in good condition, police said.

    The 27-year-old officer, who also was not immediately identified, was taken to the Wilmer Eye Institute at Johns Hopkins Hospital for treatment of a cut near the right eye.

    Charges were pending against the 16-year-old who was shot, police said.

    http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2712969/detail.html
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    Goes to show you never know who's going to try to hurt you, even for a minor offense! (and afirms that teens may be the most dangerous, as they don't think before they act) :eek:
     
  2. TallPine

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    Another "innocent" child becomes a victim of those evil awful guns .... :D
     
  3. Sportcat

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    Countdown to outraged community.... tick, tick, tick...
     
  4. rock jock

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    Mr. Po-Po needs more firepower.
     
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    How long do you think it will take until some idiot tries to tell us that the police need to be disarmed???
     
  6. bvmjethead

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    The police need to be disarmed.











































    :neener:
     
  7. Sportcat

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    idiot!
     
  8. spacemanspiff

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    16 yr olds who commit crimes and attack LEO's are not 'boys'.
    they are vermin that need to be exterminated.
     
  9. Sportcat

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    Maybe he'll be able to share a cell with Michael Jackson.
     
  10. bbrins

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    Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. The 16 year old thug got what he was asking for.
     
  11. 10-Ring

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    I'm glad the officer wasn't hurt any worse than he was!
     
  12. Abenaki

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    The Officer should have gone for slide lock!!!!!
    Now the little puke will be a hero in his own little circle of friends!

    Abenaki
     
  13. Standing Wolf

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    Showing up for a gun fight without a gun is like voting for representatives of the Democratic (sic) party: self-defeating.
     
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    I'm glad the officer survived, too bad the kid did. I'm all for police restraint and making sure of the situation before acting, but once attacked the cop shouldn't have stopped until his gun was empty!
     
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    Police officers DO need military weapons.
     
  16. KRAUTGUNNER

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    I think the officers of the Baltimore police department need more effective ammo.

    A hit in the chest is supposed to STOP a bad guy for good!

    I would recommend a super fast .40 S&W load with a 135grs Sierra JHP.
     
  17. Mad Man

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    On October 8, 1995, a 14-year old stabbed two Denver police officers, almost killilng one of them.
     
  18. David Wile

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    Hey folks,

    Have any of you considered what would have happened if any one of us had been standing in place of the cop and had done the same thing?

    I have no idea of the details of the incident because I did not want to bother reading about it. I found the comments in this thread far more interesting.

    It would seem everyone who responded thus far has expressed the idea that the cop did the right thing, and the kid should have been killed. OK, I can go along completely with the idea that the cop should have been able to defend himself. My problem is that I think everyone should be able to defend themselves in such circumstances. I suspect if it had been a regular citizen who had done the shooting in this case, that citizen would be in jail and would lose everything he owned in his defense. I am quite certain that it it had been a regular citizen doing this shooting, there would have been all kinds of folks (including cops, district attorneys, and folks on this forum) who would have said the citizen should have tried to get away without using deadly force.

    Sorry folks, but I do not think there should be different rules for cops than the rules applied to citizens. I am sorry that other folks on this forum would not also think they deserve as much consideration as cops. I just do not understand how we place cops as well as other groups of people on some elevated level that is better than the common citizen.

    Best wishes,
    Dave Wile
     
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    In the movies, yes.


    Doesn't work that way in real life. The sooner more gunnies realize that, the better.
     
  20. Mad Man

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    Dave makes a good point, which I think explains why a lot of gun owners get upset when police officers use excessive force and are not penalized -- or seemingly not penalized -- for it.

    It makes it more frustrating when attempts to explain an officer's actions become an attempt to excuse the officer's actions. This double standard, and not a hatred of police officers nor a desire to "bash" them, results in an "us vs. them" attitude, both among police and non-police here.

    UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh posted an example of this on his blog Volokh.com last week:


    December 12, 2003 11:09 AM


    Friday, December 12, 2003 3:30 PM

     
  21. Mad Man

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    This case (in the original post by TheeBadOne) seems like a justified shooting by the officer in question. Knives are dangerous weapons.

    But then again...

    I wasn't there, and I'm not supposed to believe media reports about police officers using force. So I should be skeptical about what happened.

    Right?
     
  22. Quartus

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    I think there is a problem with headline writers. a 16 year old is not a boy. He is a young man. He may be an immature idiot, but no boy. Too bad the little s.o.b. isn't dead.
     
  24. KRAUTGUNNER

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    @ Quartus:

    Maybe the LEO in that first story had used the wrong ammo.

    According to Marshall/Sanow ("Street Stoppers") .45ACP ammo from CCI (with 230 Gold Dot bullets) is rated at 86% OSS (ons shot stops).

    The .40 S&W from Cor-Bon (with 135grs Nosler JHP) has an OSS of 96%!!

    The 9mm WW ammo (147grs subsonic) the junior LEO used, is a pathetic joke! OSS=77%!!!

    I am convinced that REAL stopping power in handgun calibers can only be achieved with light, FAST and expanding/fragmenting large diameter bullets.
     
  25. Quartus

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    You'd better do some more reading. Lab results are not street results.
     
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