https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/12/15/6-5-bc-wildcat-cartridge-by-vortex/ Seems cool but I don’t really understand half of it. What y’all think?
Like all great ideas, it started with someone saying something stupid! Its a neat round, tho i havent looked up specs, and unless its going full commercial I think those guys have a cool "club" cartridge.
from what I've read (and the fact they had to ream their powder funnel LOL) they're using ultramag size brass, slightly shorter than a .264 Winchester. That should give it nearly identical, or perhaps slightly more powder capacity than the.264....so about +/-10gr more than the 6.5-284s capable of running..... The load range they were running in the video i watched was about what id expect from the lower capacity -284 tho. also...is it just me or are these guys REALLY not handloaders, much less wildcatters lol.
That ought to burn the throat of a barrel out pretty quick! I'll stick with my 6.5-06 for my Long action 6.5mm cartridge.
I think it's for people that are never happy with what they have. Or a gun guy like most of us that want's an excuse for something new that goes bang .I remember the day when I had it all with a 30-06, 12 gauge and .22LR. I was ready for anything. I don't even know what's is hiding in my safe right now or loaned out to relatives.
So in that basic range of cartridges we have factory rounds in the 6.5PRC, 6.5RPM, .264 Winchester, 26Nosler, and at the top end 6.5-300WBY. Plethora of existing wildcats like the Leopard, and 6.5-300WM, and im sure others im not thinking of...... I take it back, these guys are Wildcaters (bitchcaters?) of the highest order! and now im hooked......
i,ll keep my 3006, as i don,t shoot at animals over 400 yards, most much less. a 165 gr nosler BT at 2900 fps is still carrying 2014 fps with 1486 fpe at 400 yards and 22" drop with a 200 yard zero.
In an effort to promote less negative attitudes towards the never ending stream of new cartridges of questionable value I think I will respond with: Yup. That now exists. In regards to it’s likeness to the .264 Winchester, it has become popular to “fix” the belted magnums. The .375 Ruger did it well. This and the 300 PRC are a little more dubious on paper in that regard. In the end the guns will be reamed with a throat for long and heavy bullets and faster twist rifling too so those “problems” are also “fixed”
Twist rate - is a good point. Thank you. (Although, from the size of the case, it probably won't last long anyway.) GR
Yeah, the only "problem" with the 264 mag is the twist rate is too slow to adequately take advantage of the higher bc bullets available in 6.5.
Same here- would like a piece of the brass for the collection- but no 6.5 BC for me. 6.5 Creed, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5x284 Norma - my 6.5 itch is scratched
Well, next logical cartridge will be the 6.5 evinrude. I’m waiting for the flashy 6.5 Samsung though, but I suspect that the 6.5 Serta will be softer shooting.
I wonder if they are doing this because they want complete control over the round for something optics related. In the middle of 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.6-300 Weatherby is the 6.5 PRC so it doesn't really seem to be filling any holes.
I like things that exist for stupid reasons......if you havent watched the inception video, you dont truly know how stupid the genesis of this cartridge is.....And the brass looks cool! I wish them luck and hope they enjoy their new round.
I sort of wish I had a use for these kinds of cartridges but alas I don't. I have the classics, 30-06. 270 win, 223/556 and even a "new-fangled" 6mm Creedmoor, but they rarely get used. The 6mm Creedmoor gets to the occasional PRS match but I don't shoot those much (yet) and for hunting I like to use "weird" cartridges that are typically shorter range cartridges simply because where I hunt 150 yards is a long shot. I know enough to appreciate what they are doing and admire the work and though I have little use for it (currently) I am not going to curmudgeon it because something else fits my needs or interests me more. Its based on RUM/Jeffery so it has that going for it... Will be interesting to see if it makes it to SAAMI status. Do we have specs yet? Case volume, max pressure, twist rate etc? I did not see that in the one article I found.