Old men rule!!!

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Gray hair has it's advantages......just hope the younger generation won't get their nose rings caught in equipment.
 
"I had questions that I know were basic and elementary to them, but they answered every one of them and never once acted superior because of their knowledge."

Well, in all fairness, not all old poops are so open and helpful. But, seems more likely it's the younger folk who need to establish a "pecking order", wanting to appear to be, if not be, at the top of the chain; that's childish. I see it from time to time on the web. But, eventually most of us grow out of that and we get comfortable with who and what we are, without delusions of grandure. We usually remember that none of us were born knowing a damp thing, that makes it easier for us to try to help others without being condescending...IF the youngters mind their manners. (We have also out-grown our tolerance for much foolishness or arrogance in anyone else!)

I only respond to web questions if/when I feel the question is a valid one, if it interests me, if I know the answer and IF it seems the poster might listen. (Seems some may be more interested in building a high post count and a place in the pecking order than actually helping anyone. ??)


"just hope the younger generation won't get their nose rings caught in equipment. "

To be truly funny, a quip has to have an element of truth and that's funny, I don't care who ya are.
 
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Rembrant, I wish to hell I had grey hair. Then I could brush in a little "Just For Men" and be okay. Sadly, mine has decided to vacate the premises. By the time I'm 40, I'll look like Mr Clean. lol

And thankfully there are no piercings to get in the way either. My pops was old school. If I'd walked in the house with a piercing anywhere, it would have likely gotten ripped out. I'll be 30 in July and I'd still be scared to walk up with something like that. That's not a joke either, just a fact.
 
When I'm getting on an airplane I take a look into the cockpit to see if the pilot has gray hair. I feel a lot safer if he does, and with good reason.
 
......just hope the younger generation won't get their nose rings caught in equipment.

I just can't see why anyone would want to poke holes in themselves, then put hardware in them. I pierce myself at least 2 times daily taking blood sugar counts and injecting insulin, I sure wouldn't to it to put some hardware in myself. When I was growing up, women had earrings, men didn't.

I guess I'm qualified for that term old fart! But if anyone wants info about shooting or reloading, I'll do anything I can to help. Including letting someone visit to use my equipment. Or I'll come to their house to help them set-up their loader.

I only respond to web questions if/when I feel the question is a valid one, if it interests me, if I know the answer and IF it seems the poster might listen.

Ranger, EXACTLY! If I don't know about a question, I go onto something else. OR if the question isn't complete with all pertinent info, I won't respond. Or I'll post something like more info please!?

Like; I can't get my remmy 700 to shoot, what's wrong?-----------HUH? What caliber, what ammo, what you mean won't shoot, won't fire, bad accuracy---the list goes on!!!
 
I learned to reload sitting in a gun shop listening. I ordered my stuff from them based on their advice and what I was doing. They told me what books to get, how to not go broke experimenting (odd since they were getting my money), and even demonstrated a few things that confused me. The other customers and the owner helped me out a ton in figuring out what I might be doing wrong.

Once I got some punched primers and was worried about the gun even though it was a minimum load. A simple "Did you wipe off the lube?" fixed it.

It has since changed hands and while not quite as helpful, they guys are still willing to answer questions.
 
Hello friends and neighbors // Great story and learning experience

You have found a great source of informed knowledge, instead of uninformed opinion.
You must be an exceptional youngman to appreciate, these oldtimers.

Maybe you can offer to help them with whatever you are good at.
 
I can remember vividly as a young man arter my army time sitting around deer camp and Saturday afternoons listening to the stories from the olt timers about shooting and reloading firearms and cartridges I could only dream about. In those days you just listened unless unless they directed a question to you. Now I'm one of the Old Farts and enjoy telling my "war stories" to the younger crowd at my gun club. But the difference now is they do ask the questions and they are good ones, and respectfully they await the answers....really a bunch of good young men.
 
"When I was growing up, women had earrings, men didn't."

Snuffy, real men still don't. It's an image thing for those who don't have one, real men don't need it. IMHO, of course.
 
cough RCMODEL WALKALONG cough

not saying there old but they help with a lot of problems Ive had and ones that I search for usually have one post left by one or both.

My dads that way hes 69 and remembers so much from the old days. He hasn't messed with anything more then his Remington rand 1911 ($125) and his rugger .44mag. He was amazed when I showed him my ar. even though he bought two of them new for $150 each back in the early 70's one with the origanal 3x20 scope. He tells me things all the time that open my mind.
 
GREAT THREAD!

I am 48, but live in a retirement community. My wife is JUST old enough...so it makes ME eligable.
I LOVE it here, because the older folks still have the old fashioned values.

When you hold a door they say "thank you"...they are NEVER to BUSY (like some younger folks on their cellphone) for common curtousy.

They are very active...and healthy..and are ALWAYS willing to share their wisdom with someone who shows just a bit of respect.
In fact they are often anxious to do it. My life has taken a big turn for the better since I have moved here.
I have learned more on the golf course in the last couple years than in ALL my college days.
My normal interests are Golfer/shooter and wildlife photographer (Grand Canyon Guide), and there are plenty of folks here that share those same interests. 50 is the new 40, etc.
My Dad's 82, and works out with me at the Gym 3days/week!!! Going STRONG!!! Looks like he's 60, and teaches computer photography, etc.

Great Thread, ArPaul...you are smart enough to learn this at the comfortable side of 30...and are AHEAD of the game.
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Thank you very much for all the comments.
When I started this thread, I didn't think it would take off like this.
This is a little off topic, but I think the problem with the generation coming up is that family values and respect for elders has lost it's importance. I'm fortunate. My dad grew up in the Mississippi delta in 1947, picking cotton every day from the time he was nine or ten. He only went to school through the eighth grade, and had to quit. After serving fifteen months in Vietnam, he came home, got his GED and went to college. He was handed nothing. Everything he has came from sweat and blood. And let me just tell you, he don't give a rat's a$$ about this new breed of young people walking around with their pants hanging off their butt, looking like they fell face first into a tackle box, thinking the world owes them something.
If he'd saw me being disrespectful to an elder growing up, I'd have had some problems sitting down for a while. There were just some things a man did, if he wanted to call himself a man. I consider myself very fortunate to have the upbringing I've had, and if I'm half the man he is, I'll be just fine.
 
if I'm half the man he is, I'll be just fine.
Same way I feel about my Dad. Lied about his age to go fight in WW2 at 15yrs old.
Purple Heart.

He told me one time he may get old, and I may get tough enough to kick his butt, but he'd always be strong enough to Break my Dinner Plate.
He's never had too yet.

You're ahead of the game, Paul...just with the wisdom you've mentioned.
 
Paul is my brother! And I am blessed to have the TWO greatest men in the world as dad and bro. He is exactly what you see in these post and Paul you are just as great as dad and I am very proud of you!
 
the people i most respect and are best friends with are old guys. Somethings take a lifetime to learn and dont be fooled cause some old boy is over 70 and never finished high school he knows more then a college grad in most cases. Have very few friends my own age.
 
I'm not quite considered old at the age of only 53 but I'm getting there. I try to help anyone who wants help. IMO it's the best way to keep or sport alive. I know several gentlemen in the age group mentioned and they are all extremely knowledgeable and willing to share it all. I've listened to them talk for countless hours.
 
I was raised by my maternal grandparents so communicating with oldsters has always been quite natural for me. I'm not so "new" anymore being 57.

There are some older guys in a gun shop in Longview, Texas and when I go there if I have questions about loading they love to share info with me and I soak it up.
 
It was awesome. I ended up staying for over an hour, shooting the bull with these guys. Talking to them, I realized why they're known as the greatest generation ever. They were incredible guys.

What? You didn't stick around for checkers? Man, you completely missed it. :D
 
Well, I'm a middle aged fart (50).

as far as bald - my dad always said "God only made a few perfect heads, the rest he covered with hair". (mine's perfect) LOL

as far as nice old guys - My first trip to Cabela's was an eye opener. I was so confused on what I needed! There was a nice old guy there who helped me better than any Cabela's employee ever did. No, he didn't work there, he was just a nice guy willing to share his reloading knowledge.
 
I have a friend who lives and frequents a range near Huntsville, AL. Was down there visiting a couple years back, and he took me out to the range one afternoon. On the way, he told me "if you get into a discussion with one of the old farts, be careful about getting sucked into any arguments because you could find yourself arguing with a retired rocket scientist with nothing but time on his hands".
 
This is a noteworthy thread.

The respect that goes both ways between the generations is also tied to the shooting sports in general. Father taught son (who listened) and neighbor talked to neighbor to share and learn from experience. That tradition is more evident at the 'range' than most other places.

Not only that, it makes you feel good too. Just look at all those "I remember when....." and you can almost see the smile on the poster's face.

Ever play golf? You won't find a lot of these good folks to talk to.

Maybe it should be mandatory to get a gun and go the range and especially that gun shop with the back room.
 
When you guys refer to SSA...don't ya mean SAA (Single Action Army)?
Don't mean to be picky but I've seen SSA a few times now.
 
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