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Oleg, your work is in this mess, I believe ...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by takhtakaal, Jul 11, 2008.

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  1. takhtakaal

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    huh? what are you talking about????
     
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    Copy the URL (that's a web site address, to you), remove the space, watch the video, and look at the content at the indicated times.

    It isn't safe for work or little ears, and I doubt that they used Oleg's work with his permission. And if you don't know who Oleg is, well, he's your host here.
     
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    the first amendment doesn't protect violating copyrights.
     
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    Great now I'm probably on an NSA watch list for having viewed that.
     
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    Good grief, (I say good grief because of the hilarity of the video) for those of you that don't copy and paste this link, it's a video compilation of posters and pictures set to rap music.

    The posters are a mixed bag really; everything from, Bush planned 9/11, to a picture of the preamble to the Constitution.

    It's pretty ridiculous really. Some group that calls itself A.R.M. put it up. It appears to promote a pretty media driven/soldier of fortune perspective of "taking back America"

    bleh
     
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    Neviander, thanks for saving me the trouble.
     
  8. takhtakaal

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    One of you seems to get it.
     
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    Ah, calls for a New World Oder :)

    --wally.
     
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    well, instead of passing presumptous judgement on the group, I'm going to take the high road and ask, does anyone have a manefisto or statement of intent or statement of beliefs or anything similiar for this group?

    since I don't know anything about them it seems hard to draw any unbiased conclusions.

    I don't agree with what they have to say (some of it anyway) but I respect and will defend their right to say it, this is america...

    are they not promoting the free use and ownership of guns?

    when you filter out the political mess, isn't that what we all are trying to do?
     
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    So is the Aryan Nation. :banghead:

    Jeff
     
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    These are people who are roughly in our camp.
    Now, they don't have the conduct, and are more hotheaded and "youthful" to use a euphemism, but they are allies, if not very good examples.
    The best description I can think of for them is that they are the exact same sort of people who are staunch Obama supporters (or PETA supporters, or Brady supports, et. al), with the exception that they chose our camp, not Obama's. By this, I mean that they advocate as a social event, they do it to be a part of a group and because it makes them feel a part of something larger and earthshaking. This is exactly the atmosphere of the Obama campaign, as directed toward the youth. A great example of this phenomenon is a friend of mine. Actually a McCain supporter, he admits he agrees with 90% of libertarian values, but supports McCain to be part of the group of people.
    Now, these particular people have chosen our group to fulfill they're social needs. While this may annoy some, we can use it to our advantage. They already preach most of what many of us in the RKBA camp advocate. They may not fully believe it, but with care and guidance, we can actually open their eyes to the reality of the RKBA (and limited Constitutional government, et cetera) movement.
    I don't mean to make this a political thing, those are just the best examples I can think of for this type of thing.
    But these people, at least in large measure, aren't crazies. In fact, they're very average, at least in their political participation. It's just sometimes weird and disturbing seeing what average people do when attracted to our movement.
    You can equate these people, I think, to sort of modern-day French Revolutionaries. Well-intentioned, but lacking in temper and prudence.

    Just my $2.00*.


    (Disclaimer: I did not watch the entire video, as I despise rap music, and it seemed very poorly done, so if there is anything in there that I missed that obviously discredits my above statements, let me know. I am basing this assertion on groups like them that I have come into contact with recently. They are coming out of the woodwork, especially with the advent of Ron Paul's campaign.)
    *Yes, that is an inflation joke.
     
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    I don't like being told what to think. Just show me the facts or the events. When I smell hype I wonder if what they're selling is as bad as the thing they are trying to save me from.
     
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