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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by gmh1013, May 13, 2009.

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  1. Kentucky Windage

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    JohnKSa is on target. Ruger has moved away from past policies that may have been right for the times, but are no longer valid in view of the widespread acceptance and popularity of black rifles, concealable handguns, etc. Ruger is now, in case folks miss this point, a publicly owned company, and they have an obligation to their shareholders. Judging by recent sales figures, they're doing quite nicely.

    I, for one, applaud CEO Mike Fifer for moving the company in new and innovative directions. Sure, there's going to be some growing pains. There's also going to be some solid innovation, as we're seeing with some of the new Ruger-Hornady collaborative efforts. ( I am, for example, VERY pleased with the new 338 RCM).

    We should all applaud ANY TIME an American firearms manufacturer succeeds. Remember, without a domestic industry to supply and support us, our 2nd Amendment rights are largely illusory.
     
  2. TAB

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    Just to set the record strait, MIM is a form of casting. The only real diffrence between it and standard casting is they use presure to inject molten metal rather then just poring it. When done correctly it is the same as other types of casting.


    Oh yeah, light the puppy on fire as there will be a mandatory recall...
     
  3. hhb

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    Ruger will announce the recall of the LCR on May 15th!
     
  4. tkopp

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    I'll also throw my vote for an AR platform of some kind. Heck, even Remington's in that game now.
     
  5. ArmedBear

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    I sure hope Ruger doesn't waste its production capacity on yet another AR.

    I understand the temptation, but Ruger makes so many firearms that I really like and CAN'T buy from 50,000 other vendors.
     
  6. Dimis

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    ROFL

    yea guys haha funny funny recalled rugers got it

    cause no one has ever had a S&W lock fail (or at least terrified to buy one because of it)
    or seen any other firearm do a recall
    be glad that Ruger will stand behind what they make and dont just let us keep useing them untill someone gets hurt
    both models that did have the recall were new models for ruger im sure anyone who ever bought anything new has had this happen (remember the first generation sony playstation or countless cellphones?)
    even firearms have flaws to start with its part of the invention/inovation process im sure even the holiest of holy Mr J. Moses Browning had a few duds along the way till he got the 1911 right and if you remember the 1911 was refined by the A1 to solve certain "problems" with the design

    in short we got it about the recalls

    and again i REALLY hope its not another AR
     
  7. ArmedBear

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    Well, actually, I started a non-hysterical thread about this and the real evidence is extremely spotty.

    Agreed.

    Oh yeah, in addition to the AR, I hope it's not yet another 1911, either.
     
  8. presspuller

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    I too hope its not another AR, but a Ruger 1911 would be pretty cool. I have wished they would have gotten on that band wagon for a long time. Not so much now but many years ago I sure did.
     
  9. JR47

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    The fact that others have adopted the European model when dealing with firearms failures is sad. Like Glock, many will deny that there's a problem overall, fix the guns that fail, and are brought to their attention, and make running modifications, fixing the problem.

    S&W just had their M&P 9mm pistols removed totally from service with LASD for barrel separation problems, and additional jamming issues, that weren't fixed by the S&W reps/armorers. Or the barrels separating on the X-frames? Or K-frames failing when used with the designated ammo? Or the N-frames when using standard pressure .44 Mag ammo? Or Sigs cracking slides on the P229? Or the HK USP's recurrent accuracy issues? Or Beretta's slide failure issues?

    If that occurred to Ruger, they would issue a recall for a fix. This is something that American companies have been beaten to death over by the off-shore companies. It appears that here is another issue where, if a lie is repeated often enough, it becomes truth to the uninformed.

    Those referring to Bill Sr.'s policies should remember another American company that sold out directly to an anti-gun President. Somehow, nobody seems unwilling to forgive them. This occurred much more recently, and was much more onerous in scope. Seems pretty ignorant to let them slide, but not a policy by a dead man, in the face of current products and policies. Then again, we're not really dealing with logic here, are we?
     
  10. Quoheleth

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    When I first saw the announcement, I was hoping to see Ruger continue to support the Cowboy Action sports with a Winchester-like lever action and get rid of that butt-ugly thing they sell. A matched pair of Rugers - a Vaquero and a lever gun - chambered in the same calibers would be a hot ticket item, I would think.

    But, evidence seems to be pointing in a different direction.

    If any of the Ruger leadership is reading this, I get "dibs" on the first "historic" lever action you make!

    Q
     
  11. mgregg85

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    Maybe a *$$%*%&$ Mini-14 that takes AR-15 mags instead of the $40 ruger brand mags.
     
  12. FMF

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    Apparently Ruger "listened" when we "spoke" for the last three guns so....what have we been asking them to make this whole time :rolleyes:

    My bets are on an SR45. When the SR9 came out I was shocked that no .45 model was introduced along with it.
     
  13. ArmedBear

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    Stainless .41 Magnum and stainless 5.5" .45 Colt Blackhawk?

    Mini-14 that takes STANAG magazines? (Heard that one A LOT.)
     
  14. cibach

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    so will it be at midnight tonight we can find out?
     
  15. schmeky

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    I used to really love and covet most anything Ruger. I have had, and still have several Ruger firearms. But somewhere they took a turn that has left me stranded as a Ruger customer.

    I am not bashing Ruger at all. In fact, I miss them. I don't even consider Rugers any longer when I'm looking to buy.
     
  16. Elmer

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    AR.......
     
  17. strangelittleman

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    Yeah....sadly it's probably just, yet another piston fired AR...Just like every third AR producer, Yawn...

    However while at the Shot Show, I talked to Voltor about the upcoming Fortis pistol, they told us that Ruger was the source for most of the parts (frame, slide, etc) for the Fortis pistol, so could it be too much to hope for a Ruger stamped Bren Ten?
     
  18. ArmedBear

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    I certainly do. I can't afford to get a bunch of Freedom Arms revolvers, and I don't want just one revolver.

    But for an AR? Well, I won't be looking for one anyway. I could use another upper, but otherwise, I'm all set.

    Ruger, though, probably won't be in the upper business. Why would I want another lower?
     
  19. mattlove444

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    Mini that accept STANAG mags PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ :cuss:
     
  20. tkopp

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    Just for hilarity's sake.

    Mini-50? :D
     
  21. SGW42

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    I keep waiting for Ruger to make a pump action shotgun. Their reputation is about over-built reliable guns and it seems like that's the segment that would appreciate it.
     
  22. Dimis

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    i guess we will find out at high noon tomorrow thats what the countdown timer is ticking to

    im almost 100% that its anoth AR on the bandwagon but heres to hoping its not
     
  23. Eb1

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    What is Ruger's slogan when watching "MidwayUSA Night at the Range"?

    I swear it has something about honest men.
     
  24. Sam1911

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    Because the Rem 870 and Mossy 500 are not reliable? Really? I can't see Ruger making one at those competitors' price points. And, regardless of how overbuilt it would be, I can't see it being any more reliable than those two long-established guns, either.

    Might feel a little more solid, probably would be significantly heavier, but competitive on the market? Nah. It's not like most wing-shooters, who would most appreciate high craftsmanship in a gun, are flocking (pun!) to pump guns anymore anyway. The few that do still have the Ithaca 37 and Browning BPS to cling to. And the tactical market and deer/slug/turkey gun market for pump guns seems to be pretty well sewn up with the reliable, rugged, and CHEAP Rem. and Mossy versions. or the Winchester SXP.

    Seriously, I can't see Ruger jumping into such a crowded field and trying to chisel out a market.

    For what it's worth, I guess I CAN see them jumping into the AR-15 market. Remington did it with some success, and if Ruger offers something a little off the mainstream, they really could capture a part of a market that is still VERY hot.

    I can see them making enough changes from the common variants to make it "Ruger" flavored. The piston driven upper is a start. I'd also expect a wide variety of caliber offerings, possibly with an AR-10 sized receiver version. It would probably be less "black rifle" looking and more stainless/gray/hunter looking. (Give the last of the "Fudds" the excuse they needed to fall in love with the Stoner rifle.) Might even have some proprietary bits to answer some perceived flaw (I'm thinking of changes to the bolt to toughen/enlarge the lugs, as one example). Negative changes I could imagine would be ditching the common Picatinny rail top for the Ruger proprietary scope ring mounts. Hope not, but they just *might*. Maybe even go with a concentric, forward-mounted recoil spring to ditch the tube out back?

    Who knows. I'm probably way off. But I think if they made such a thing, they'd sell them a LOT faster than they could make them! Something really new under the AR-15 sun? And from an American company? In fact, the "finicky" and "unreliable" AR-15, as envisioned by the "King" of beefy reliability? That would get people up out of their seats, for sure!

    Just a thought.

    -Sam
     
  25. freakshow10mm

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    It's a gas piston AR. Note the Ruger eagle on the carrier and lack of forward assist cuts.

    rugerboltcarrier-1.gif
     
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