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On this shirt no one would notice.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Sato Ord, Apr 14, 2008.

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  1. Sato Ord

    Sato Ord Member

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    Sorry, I know Arnie isn't the world's greatest actor, but I do like some of his lines.

    Anyway, since I'm finally getting my concealed carry permit, and needed some new summer clothes I figured I'd match my wardrobe to my purpose.

    To avoid showing the print of the gun dark is better than light, prints are better than solid. So, I've started buying those obnoxious Hawaiian shirts, and I'm buying them about two sizes two big. I figure the parrots, flowers, and palm trees will provide "Dazzle" camouflage.

    I may not need the weapon in a crisis, the poor BG will be so sick from the shirt he'll be helpless.

    Now all I have to do is remember to carry my cell phone on my left instead of my right.

    PS No, I am not buying Tommy Bahama shirts as my best friend suggested I should do. If I'm spending that much on something it's going to be more guns and ammo.
     
  2. Blackbeard

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    How 'bout modeling some of those atrocities for us?
     
  3. FieroCDSP

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    I've got a few of those shirts. The one that has fern fronds that kinda look like pot is my favorite. If you really want to make someone sick, look for one that has a shiny look to it. Criminals are easily confused by shiny objects.
     
  4. Sato Ord

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    Are you kidding, I won't even put them on until I get the permit and start carrying concealed.:barf:

    When it comes to fashion most of my friends say that all of my taste is in my mouth, but even I have some sense of dignity. This is strictly a tactical decision, not a fashion statement.:D
     
  5. The Lone Haranguer

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    I like shirts that are a little more subdued. "Hawaiian" shirts blend in in Hawaii (where you can't CCW anyway) and the Las Vegas Strip, but not many other places.

    I have a shirt that was given to me as a gag gift. It depicts dogs playing poker, on a red background. :D I could CCW with it as it is large and loose, but don't want the attention.
     
  6. Sato Ord

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    Don't forget that those atrocities are also popular down here in the Sunshine State. I'll blend right in. The more colorful and outlandish the better.

    However, all of the kidding about how bad they look aside, they really do conceal what is under them. Dazzle does work when it comes to fooling the eye, and everybody expects those shirts to be a bit baggy to allow air to circulate under them.

    I actually brought this up because I have seen a lot of threads about concealing weapons effectively, such as fanny packs and such, but the issue of clothing hasn't been discussed a whole lot. I've also been involved in these discussions at my local gun shop/range. It always surprises me that so many new to Concealed Carry haven't given any thought to how to hide the print to avoid being cited for unlawful display beyond type of holster and possibly using a bag of some type.

    Clothes make the man, or prevent him from being made as the case may be.
     
  7. hankdatank1362

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    I second your friend. I'm still young enough to care about what I look like, so I wear the Tommy Bahama shirts. Same weapon-concealing capability, much better aesthetics.

    Granted, they are pretty expensive. I'll tell you what I recently found that works well for me: Perry Ellis. I thought Perry went out years ago, but I walked into one of their stores the other day, and lo and behold! Very well-designed clothes, that even fit me! (Normally I have to go the big-n-tall route)

    They have a nice line of Tommy Bahama-esque button up shirts for around $80-$100 cheaper than you'd get the real thing for. And they look good.

    And they're not Hawaiian print shirts. Ick, dude.
     
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    I use the cheap WalMart hunting camo t-shirts, when theygo on clearance at the end of the season. Buy XXL, and camo is ALWAYS in,(if you get the Fusion 3D or such, it still loooks kinda tropical...), and brand new light t-shirts for $4 is a big bonus for me. Only shirts I spend more than $50 on is my uniform ones!
     
  9. Sato Ord

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    The whole point is to dazzle the eye so much that any print from the gun is unnoticeable. The whole "Ick" factor is exactly what I'm counting on. There is so much going on with the colors and patterns that the eye can't follow it all effectively making anything concealed stay concealed.

    Like I said, dark colors are better than light, prints are better than solids. You don't get any more printed than a loud Hawaiian shirt. Camouflage shirts work down here in Florida in many places also. We have our share of "Good Ole" boys who think Camouflage is the last word in fashion. However, I moved out of a rural area and am now surrounded by surfers and tourists. The trick is to dazzle the eye while blending in with rest of the population. If I lived in Oklahoma I would dress quite a bit differently.
     
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    I live in Myrtle Beach, SOuth Carolina. We have plenty of surfers, tourists in Hawaiian shirts, and rednecks in camo.

    The only time I wear camo is when hunting... the only time I wear hawaiian shirts is if we have a "theme" day at work or something.

    I know you have to dress around the gun and all, but you don't have to give up looking good to do it.

    Granted, the Hawaiian print does what it's supposed to do, breaking up the line of a gun... but I'd rather print just a little bit more if I bend over or something than wear one.

    To each their own.
     
  11. Mr White

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    Either that or they'll immediately think 'unarmed tourist' and hold you up.
     
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    Dazzleflage?
     
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    Strange you should mention this topic. I decided to put one on the other day and was supprised how well it concealed. I alway strech and move around to make sure the holster stays put and concealed. It did not print at all. I need to take a look at some of the other manufacters that posters mentioned here.

    Thanks
     
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    Careful. If you go too outlandish the criminals will mistake you for a tourist and your chances of being the target will skyrocket.
     
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    Who's Arnie?
     
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    A fleece pull-over works great in the spring and fall (especially the type with an elastic bottom to help it stay down), and obviously a coat in winter. But summer conceal of a full-size is a lot more difficult. The Hawaiian shirts are nice if you can pull them off. Hawaii and Florida are the best bets there. I don't know how well I can pull it off in Ohio, but I've never been a fashion bug anyway. A light, airy, button-up shirt over a T-shirt seems to be best for me and concealing in light-weight clothing. I will be looking into compact and sub-compact guns this year, though.
     
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    I used to wear Hawaiian shirts for the same reason. After a while you will feel the need to buy a red Ferarri 360 and grow a thick mustache. I bought a smaller pistol and pocket carry when it is hot. I have found any printed shirt breaks up the outline pretty well the important factor is getting a shirt that dosen't look huge but comfortably large.
     
  18. The Tourist

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    (ahem) And just when does one cross this magic line? I still have a need for safety and security.

    I've seen shaved mohawks, baggy pants, worn out sandals, piercings in just about every hole imaginable and heads bopping to unseen music. I'm supposed to believe they care what they look like.

    To the topic. Massad Ayoob once wrote that it might be a good idea to buy pants one size bigger to use a holster called a "Summer Special." And I think that's an important part of this topic.

    If you are serious about your CCW, you might have to buy or alter clothes for the behavior.
     
  19. rainbowbob

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    Hey wait a minute! I've been wearing these things for years in "sunny" Seattle - even before I CCW'd. I break 'em out at the first sign of that strange and rare bright yellow orb in the sky. Ya gotta do something to brighten things up around here!
     
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    You can always tell people you are a Jimmy Buffett fan like I do. Works all the time.
     
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    Hooray! Another fashion thread... I'm chiming in!

    Hawaiian shirts are ok, if they fit properly, meaning loose but not so baggy that they wave like the stars and stripes in the wind.

    And as far as the pants a whole size larger thing goes... I've been able to carry a gun in all my pants and they are the proper size. Buying pants a whole size larger doesn't make you more tactical, it makes you look like you don't know how to shop for clothing. It'll show when your pants are hanging off your rear end and the fabric bunches up. It's more crucial that you examine the cut of the pants (fitted, relaxed, loose fit, etc.). Little things like pleats, can also make all the difference.

    My advice, browse GQ for the latest in "urban camo".
     
  22. The Tourist

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    That's not an option for some of us.:D

    More to the point, my comment was more of a general statement. In other words, dress for the circumstances in which you live.
     
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    Hey! Hey! Watch it with bad-mouthing the Aloha shirts. I wear them in "sunny" central Ohio spring, summer, and fall - maybe that is why people talk behind their hands and point and mothers lead their kids to the other side of the street.:eek:
     
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    One question...tucked or untucked? I like 'em tucked but have yet to acquire the proper tuckable IWB holster.
     
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    I know it's hard to conceal in warm weather, but Hawiian shirts are a fashion line I won't cross.
     
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