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Open Range

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dr.Rob, Aug 15, 2003.

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  1. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

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    Ok this oater takes a while to get to the shoot em up, but I genuinely liked it.


    Gun related:

    Duvall carries an 1875 Remington (claims he likes a 'heavy' sidearm).

    Costner packs a 7.5 inch Colt SAA (which Duvall notes is "light")

    You'll see why later in the film.

    Shoot em up is good, though there are scenes of the shotgun knocking people sideways and back 6 feet. See it in a theatre with stero sound the bullets echo and zip form one side of the theatre to the other and back.

    Really good scene of Costner getting after a guy who is hiding behind a water trough.

    Overall, worth a look.
     
  2. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    Unless I catch this on PPV ... it'll be a wait till DVD appears ... sounds worth a look tho .... thx.
     
  3. 4v50 Gary

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    If I can set aside the books, this may be my first movie of the year.
     
  4. Schuey2002

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    I'm going to go see it Saturday..

    (Just looking at the previews, it kinda reminds me of an '03 version of Unforgiven..) ;)
     
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    Loved it, just got back. Some critics panned it as a cliched horse opera. Duh! What do you think I wanted to see? I liked the hat on the doorstep, a little nod to the original silver-screen bad*ss. There were a few tactical inconsistencies, but they at least tried to show more than a couple of guys standing there blasting at each other. Guns actually required reloads! Amazing! Apart from the shotgun personnel launcher the film did a lot better than standard. Folks were hit multiple times and didn't DRT or stop fighting. No look through the hole in the head crap like that dumb Sharon Rock movie.

    There are a few Rock Ridge jokes in there too. At least I thought there was when the whole town is evacuating.
     
  6. stellarpod

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    EXCELLENT!

    Best cowboy flick since Lonesome Dove. Duvall does it again, and regardless of what you think of her politics, Ms. Benning ain't too hard on the eyes either...

    stellarpod
     
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    One of the best I've seen in quite awhile. Even my wife enjoyed it. Cosner appears to have returned from the dead and Duvall is still excellent.
     
  8. Black92LX

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    Great Movie.

    glad i went to see it tonight. there were sections that were slow but it was well worth it.
     
  9. dinosaur

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    I read Duvall was great and Costner had a hard time keeping up with him.
     
  10. stellarpod

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    Well, Duvall IS great. And I'm not particularly a fan of Kevin Cosner, but I believe he held his own in this movie.

    The vistas are breathtaking, the plot is great, perhaps a bit too familiar, but engaging nonetheless. Some will whine about a couple of shot-count transgressions. But, over all the fight scenes where riveting. No token sex scenes. Just persistent admiration and respect among the leading roles. There were a few spots where the plot seemed to drag just a bit, but I'll give Cosner some artistic license in that regard.

    All in all, a must see in my opinion for anyone who enjoys a good western. And make no mistake about it, this IS a good western. Will be definetly be in my DVD collection the moment it hits the stores.

    stellarpod
     
  11. greyhound

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    Going this afternoon, and after seeing these posts I can't wait!
     
  12. BamBam-31

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    Overall, an enjoyable movie. Out of five shots, 1 1/2 flyers.

    We watched it the second night, and the theater was DESERTED. Thought I saw tumbleweeds blowing by in the aisles. Despite a solid showing, this may offically mark Costner's already declining decline.
     
  13. FPrice

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    Sounds like a good film but I just read some of Costner's comments and they turned me cold. Sounded very anti-gun to me. I'll have to try to find the review, think it was in Friday's paper.
     
  14. Chris Rhines

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    Saw it last night - very good flick. Great cinematography, fantastic sound. Story was pretty straightforward, no real plot twists, but a horse opera really isn't the place for those. Duvall, as usual, stole the show, and Costner did a pretty good job himself.

    The climactic gunfight was very clearly based on the brothel shootout in Way of the Gun. Not that this is a bad thing, of course.

    The audio engineers on this film should be tracked down and given awards, large raises, and high praise. I have never, not in any other movie, heard such perfect reproduction of gunshot reports. None of this champange-cork *pop-whiz-crack*; these were snappy and loud enough to hurt your ears a bit.

    Complaints - the movie tends to drag a bit in the beginning, not badly, but enough to be noticeable. There were a couple of minor continuity errors and a couple of never-empty-six-shooters, but that's really to be expected. Folks who've suffered through Tombstone will be glad to note that all the shotgun shells are brass-cased.

    Solid 4/5.

    - Chris
     
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    Great movie - both my wife and I liked it. Everyone does an excellent job acting, but Duvall's perfomance is Oscar material. Now Costner has three movies I like: Open Range, Dances With Wolves, The Postman.
     
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    Most enjoyable. Other than the shotguns, it was the most realistis looking Western gun battle I've ever seen (including "The Wild Bunch"). In that I mean it wasn't two groups staring at each other until one goes for his guns, then the good guys connect with every round fron the hip. This one "felt" pretty real.

    Best part:

    "You the man that killed our friend?" (Hopefully not a spoiler since its in all the TV ads.)

    Go see it. Theater here was real empty, too - but I did go to the 12:30 PM show on Saturday!
     
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    Costner on Open Range:
    "I know I'm going to get my gunfight. That's an obligatory thing, and I was happy to do it and wanted to do it. But I think guns should be loud in a movie, and scare you. The best anti-gun message is that there's a result after guns go off."

    Still want to see it though.
     
  18. greyhound

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    I dunno, that doesn't really sound that anti-gun to me. Honestly, when we have the "gangtas" and "hip-hop generation" growing up with no experience with guns other than what they see movies and video games (i.e Will Smith and Martin Lawrence shooting people while cracking jokes in Bad Boys 2, or video games like Grand Theft Auto) , its good for them to see realistic depictions of what guns can do.

    Lack of knowledge of what a gunfight is really like leads to "pullin the gat" over the tiniest indiscretion or "dissing".

    Honestly, I think gun education in the schools would help today's youth.
     
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    Another very realisric portrayal was the lack of hits when the lead was really flying and the point someone already mentioned about people taking multiple hits and staying in the fight. The laconic beginning was necessary to set the stage for the trouble to come . Great development of the relationships between the characters. Little things like the scenes about Cuban cigars and chocolate. Easily worth the price. Theater was packed at the 7:00 Friday night show Don't miss it. Smooth is fast
     
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    Just back from a viewing and the theater was full. Everyone seemed to enjoy it.

    What really bothered me was the killing of Mose. I really like this actor, though I don't see enough of him. He seems like a genuinely good person and I can't ever remember seeing him portray a loser or jerk. They gave a good eulogy for him, I thought.

    Duvall did an excellent job and I didn't see Costner faltering or trying to keep up. I think a lot had to do with the types of characters they were portraying.

    The gunshots were very accurate. Reloads were nice to see.

    Best part was seeing, finally, the townspeople get involved. I can't remember how many times I've screamed at the idiotic, cowardly townsfolk to stand up for themselves in these types of movies. Finally, someone did it!! Great lesson for our society.

    Overall, I give it 4/5 shots. Nobody's perfect, but the character development and lack of gratuitous nudity was very, very pleasant to sit through.
     
  21. greyhound

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    Also kind of realistically, they made the townsfolk (and other characters that weren't supposed to be fairly familiar with guns) horrible shots.

    And some of the brave townspeople got shot. This is what would really happen if some townies rose up.

    I wanna go see it again, especially the gunfight part. Maybe I can talk the GF into going, or else I'll have to wait for the DVD. (XMas release please, no "Road To Perdition" bull where it comes out in February!):fire:
     
  22. RikWriter

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    I think the best part of the movie was Sue's reaction to the shootout. At first I thought she was going to go all liberal about how she couldn't love Charley because he was a killer, but the script surprised me. "You may have done some bad things...some things worse than bad. But today wasn't one of them."
    All in all, despite showing the aftermath of the shootout, no one seemed to blame Charley or Boss and actually they supported them. Very cool.
    Also has one of the best lines from any western: "Men are gonna get killed today. I'm going to be killing them."
     
  23. RikWriter

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    Well, no, it wasn't and you're wrong. Duvall and Costner were fighting to defend their PRIVATE PROPERTY from a man who had attacked them and intended to steal it. You're looking for propoganda everywhere and are thus guaranteed to find it.
     
  24. Harrison

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    I'm no Costner fan, but I really like Robert Duvall and I really liked this movie. Even the bride liked it, and she doesn't generally like shootouts.

    As far as the politics of the movie goes, I agree with RikWriter.

    H
     
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    I like the movie. I will be buying the DVD.

    I thought it have a very pro-conservative message.

    There are things worth fighting for and there are things worse than death.

    I didn't see anything anti-gun or anti-american in it at all.
     
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