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Opinions about S&W Sigma?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by genxsis, Mar 2, 2007.

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  1. genxsis

    genxsis Member

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    I don't hear much anymore about the Sigma anymore. S&W has come out with an "enhanced" version. I think the original got some bad press.

    Has anyone here tried out the new version? It's a polymer framed gun like the Glock (which so many people love) but costs much less. I'm just wondering if even the reduced cost is worth paying.
     
  2. strat81

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    The E models have a much better reputation. They are quite comfortable to hold, too.
     
  3. Tezcatlipoca

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    Not a fan.

    Decent ergos. HORRIBLE TRIGGER!!!!!!!!
     
  4. genxsis

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    I forgot to mention that I have a Sigma .380, which is an alright pocket gun that's easy to carry. It won't save the world, but it might save my life! :)
     
  5. ugaarguy

    ugaarguy Moderator Staff Member

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    Texcat's summary reflects my experience. Generally reliable, great ergos, very poor trigger. Another $100 gets you into some very nice used & even new pistols. Heck another $50 gets you a new Stoeger Cougar.
     
  6. 1911user

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    Another vote for decent ergonomics and a horrible trigger (that can not be easily fixed)
     
  7. 1KPerDay

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    I had a first-gen and liked it a lot. Gritty trigger, but always went bang and was pretty accurate. 15 rounds of .40 in drop-free mags is nothing to sneeze at.

    I sold it to a buddy, pretty much because I thought it was kinda ugly, and wish I still had it.
     
  8. MachIVshooter

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    Had one in .40 S&W. Spend the extra $150 for an M&P.
     
  9. legion3

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    :uhoh: sigma :barf:
     
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    Kinda like recommending shoes, each person is different. My personal experience has not been good, specifically (as mentioned by others) the trigger. Hard pull, generally difficult to shoot. Nicely done ergonomics, but again as mentioned, a few extra bucks will go far when selecting another pistol.

    My recommendation: shoot one & decide for yourself. You may find you like it, and if so, more power to you.

    IIRC, S&W got sued by Glock for copyright infringement because of the Sigma. That was quite amusing, I though...
     
  11. Bart Noir

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    I've been wondering about that lawsuit. My early Sigma (40C) has a trigger better than some (not all) Glocks that I've fired. Did the Sigma trigger have to get redesigned to settle the suit? So that it is not as nice as it once was?

    Or maybe mine has been fired so many times it just smoothed out. It is a Western Australia police trade-in. It's kinda neat to have kangaroos on the slide and the sights still glow a little. And mine hasn't given me any trouble.

    Bart Noir
     
  12. denfoote

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    Yeah OK.
    I'll give it that.
    I have an old, actually preban, 40F.
    The ergonomics are great. The trigger leaves something to be desired. However, if you shoot the Walther PP series with any regularity, then you are already used to terrible triggers!! Point is, it does not bother me!!
     
  13. Mikeo

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    I have a 9VE, and I love it. The trigger is a bit heavy, but not terrible. It is a long pull, but feels pretty smooth.
    I had a PPK/s with the DA/SA trigger, and I could never get used to the different feel. It always felt like it was jamming between shot#1 and #2. BTW, the DA pull on that one was terrible.
    The Sigma has gone bang each time I pulled the trigger. It has never jammed with any of ten differnet types of ammo, and through four different magazines. I have complete confidence in this weapon.
     
  14. nwilliams

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    I had a first geration one and I wasn't impressed at all:barf:

    However I've heard that the newer ones are better, and there are many that liked the Sigma from day one. Its like any gun it has its fans and it has its haters, its not a Glock but its better than a good number of other guns for the same price or more.

    I agree MachIV spend a little extra money and get the M&P.
     
  15. Trebor

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    My prediction is that S&W will discontinue the Sigma within the next 2 or 3 years. I have no inside knowledge, but I just bet that once the sales of the M&P start to go up, they'll drop the Sigma and try to move customers who would have bought Sigma's into the M&P instead.

    I may be wrong. Only time will tell.
     
  16. SouthpawShootr

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    I have two Sigmas. One is a 357V and the other is a 9VE. I've shot the 9VE more and it's completely adequate for carry and personal defense applications. That's what I bought it for. I went into this knowing they had a nasty trigger and that they were Glock copies (some minor differences, but copies nonetheless). I remember reading a post over at www.smith-wessonforum.com that the Sigma is S&Ws best selling gun. Also, the tooling is paid for, so the line really doesn't cost S&W anything but materials and labor. I wouldn't look for it to be discontinued anytime soon (of course, a new ASW ban may kill it b/c such a law tends to make low capacity guns more popular). Now, the M&P is a very similar but significantly more expensive pistol. I wonder if improvements to the Sigma trigger would damage the M&P line? I certainly like the Glock style takedown of the Sigma over the Sig-like takedown of the M&P.
     
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    I like the newer Sigmas (SW9VE). I have 2 in 9mm. I bought these for my wife and daughter. The trigger is heavy, but it's by design. It's meant to be more like a double action trigger pull. Less likely to have an accidental discharge with one of these. They are decently accurate, reliable and have good ergonomics. I even had an older one that was utterly reliable and accurate. I should have kept it. For me, they have been more reliable than the XD's I've owned. Having said all of that, I prefer a 1911, but I would not hesitate to grab one if needed.
     
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    I like my Sigma. Has been 100% reliable so far. I like the ergo's; it's very light, the trigger is what it is- not great, but not as bad as it is made out to be. I think it is a great deal for $300 bucks.
     
  19. 10-Ring

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    I've never been a Sigma fan....but at its price point, you get an okay gun vs. alot of other options out there.
     
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    I have the 40VE. Want it? :D Seriously, I'm keeping it, just in case, though it's become a safe queen since I got my M&P. Trigger is terrible, though I'd feel comfortable carrying it daily. That thing won't go off unless you make a determined effort, and once you get used to the take-up and pull pressure, it's extremely comfortable. I dare say it's more comfortable than my M&P. The only issues I've had firing have been due to bad (cheap PMC) ammo. I'd step up and get the M&P rather than the Sigma, if I were you, but sometimes finances affect decisions. For a 299 job, it's okay.
     
  21. Glockfan.45

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    I have a SW40VE that I picked up on a impulse one day. It felt so good in my hand, pointed naturally, and the price was right so it followed me home. First off I will say that it is a Glock in all respects, take down, and function are the same. To date I have fired a little over 600 rounds through it (all Remington UMC hollow points) and have not had one single failure or malfunction. It has been one of the most reliable guns I have ever owned. Out of the box the trigger stinks, but after 500 rounds or so it gets better. Accuracy is good for a combat pistol. I can fire 15 rounds in a hurrry and put all of them into a silhouette target at 20 yards. Its no target pistol, but if your looking for a reliable, low cost defensive pistol I would recommend it.
     
  22. waynedm

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    Agreed.
     
  23. GRIZ22

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    The LE agency I worked for tested the 9MM Sigma for purchase back in the 1990s. It wouldn't pass the reliability and durability tests. They also tested 380s later on. Walther, SIG, Beretta, and others didn't stand up to the testing. The only one that did is the Sigma 380. The only thing I dislike about the Sigma 380 is you need two fingers to pull out the magazine.
     
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    HORRIBLE TRIGGER!!! nice feel though
     
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    I havn't tried one of the 'enhanced' versions, but one of them was in the 2 day Tactical response pistol class...

    The guy used it as his CCW and hadn't had problems with it.

    It CONTINUALLY jamed the WHOLE time.

    He now has a Glock.
     
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