optic for my 6920

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I am an open site shooter and an optics newb. I would appreciate some input.

I am considering something for my Colt AR. At 50 yards the 2" dots I use for bullseyes are pretty fuzzy through the peep. I can stay on em but it's a struggle. I would like an optic that clears that up and might be usable out to 200 yards. The longest shot I am going to get staying on my own property would be 300 yards and I don't forsee that happening too often.

I am 54 with corrective lenses for nearsightedness. Should I be looking at scopes? A red dot? (I see the Aimpoint Pro seems to get high marks around here but what about distances at or over 100 yards?

I am not a pinpoint accuracy paper buster but I'd like to gain some consistency and seeing what I am shooting at has gotta help.

Next wrinkle, can I do this for $500? Remember, I know zip about optics.

Mark
 
I'm in the same boat as you, age wise.
I chose to replace the Aimpoint Pro on my ar with a Vortex pst 1-4x24. I am very pleased with the change. Also, I use a Vortex Crossfire 1-4x24 on my 450Bushmaster ar.
The Crossfire is under $200 and the pst is less than $500.
Take a look at them, you will be impressed.


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I agree with rb288, a 1-4x is the way to go. I shoot 3 gun with most targets being 300 yards an in. I hit steel easily at 300 and pretty decent groups on paper. I have a bad astigmatism in my eye. With the astigmatism, I don't like red dots for finer shooting, so I go with non illuminated traditional cross hairs. I don't see a reason for milrad or MOA hash marks on the reticle or doping up for 300 yards or in. I just just holdover. It is faster and easy enough. I have done fairly well in matches over the last 5 years.

I have a Nikon Monarch African 1-4x. I went with it for its fine cross hair, German #4 and it is light. No tactical turrets on the African. As is said, I use hold over. The Nikons below have tactical turrets.

Others: Pimary Arms $120, Nikons M223 $250, Bushnell AR $280, Burris TAC30 $300 and MTAC $350, Millet DMS $200, several Vortex ranging from $300 to $1500 ,
 
Same boat here (54) and my Trijicon TriPower chevron is now a blur on my 6920. Still usable for HD at CQB distances, but struggling at any distance.

I'm using a Vortex PST 1-4x on my DSA Para FAL, and am very happy with it. This fall I've decided to either get another Vortex, or a Leupold 1-4X.

Chuck
 
I have a couple of Trijicon 1x4 TA-24 optics that are fast and very user friendly. Clear and crisp optics as well.
 
Thanks for the replies,

With the above mentioned scopes do you leave the front site on an AR in place?
 
I assume you have a fixed front sight - with something like the Bushnell PCL, just set it up at low power for the dot to be just above the site - when you crank it up to around 3x and more, you'll never see / notice the front sight.
 
I am 54 with corrective lenses for nearsightedness. Should I be looking at scopes? A red dot? (I see the Aimpoint Pro seems to get high marks around here but what about distances at or over 100 yards?
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I too wear corrective lenses. I see three dots in the Aimpoint reticle when I take a correct position on the gun. It appears as a star and as much larger groups. Buy a red dot with etched reticle to avoid this. Test each by looking through it against your hand. Bring it very close to your eye and move your head around. This allows you to see if there are multiple dots. They will converge to one dot if you square up the lens to the optic.

However, true 1.0-4.0x scopes, 1-6x, or 1-8x if you can afford it, are the best solution. You can go up to 1.1x without causing problems at close range. 1.25x is too much and you will hunt around for the target inside 15 or 25 yards. I attended a carbine class with a Leupold Vx3 circle dot 1.5-5.5x and it was too much inside 25 yards--NO GO for CQB and 3 Gun. It was a great scope for its mission: hunting from 50 to 150 yards. I see no point in hanging a small red dot off the gun (on another $100 mount) merely because the scope has too much magnification on the low end.

Additionally, the 4x, 6x or 8x will allow you to find targets you would normally not see at 200+ yards while allowing the shooter to use the scope for CQB. I find this to be a great feature of these scopes. While you are at it, get a scope with a ballistic drop compensator. This will help you immensely at known distances.

I know many people who like the ACOG, but I find them nearly impossible to use inside 25 yards and difficult to use inside 40 yards. I cannot get the Binden Aiming Concept to work without significant hold over to one side. I tried to like it--and shelled out $1,100 for one, but it just did not work for me.

I currently use a Burris MTAC. I have spent quite a bit of time using a Pride Fowler RR800 for long range. They make a scope for AR-15 rifles that I would not hesitate to buy. Many manufactureres are making AR tactical scopes with BDC reticles and illumination in the $600 range. Read up on them and buy from a good company that offers a good warranty.
 
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A buddy, avid hunter shooting longer ranges, is trying to get me to try out Redfield. He says same quality as some Leopold with more like Tasco pricing. he also thinks I should get a bigger objective at 32 or 40mm. does this present other issues I am not aware of like mounting and shorter range shooting?

thoughts?
 
Nikon 1-4x Solid bdc precision cross hairs, mounts nice and low. Small light gathering objective, but good eye relief.

Burris 5x prism sight. You can adjust focus but the eye relief is tricky. I have been running one in tac rifle matches making shots out to 425 yards. Doesn't need batteries to work, but can use batteries for red/green illumination. Not as 'precise' cross hairs as Nikon.

You can leave the front sight on in either it will blur out. You could try a riser mount on the Burris and use the sight tunnel (it was designed to sit in a carry handle or mount on a flat top) as a ghost ring for your front sight.. it may take some fiddling to get right.
 
I also think a 1-4x variable scope is the way to go based on what you described, there are many out there, some with illuminated reticles, some designed specifically for ARs, and within your price range. I would imagine you could mount it either to absolute co-witness (cross hair/dot sits right on top of front sight post) or lower 1/3 co-witness (front sight towards bottom of sight picture), of course it only matters when the scope is set to 1x magnification, much higher and you won't even notice the front sight.
 
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