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Original text of the 2nd Amendment.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Harve Curry, Jun 23, 2004.

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  1. Harve Curry

    Harve Curry Member

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    It has been brought to my attention that I was incorrectly writing the 2nd Amendment from how it was originally written. The grammar being wrong with commas and some capital letters. I checked four books I had and only one wrote it out as a photograph of the original text proved. So I have put it in my signature line as per the original text.
    Refer to this link:
    http://my.net-link.net/~napfn/ffv4n5.htm
    It is interesting.
     
  2. GigaBuist

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    I read it. Very good!
     
  4. Rebeldon

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    "Uhh... you sure about that?

    The picture that the guy's referencing is from a printing press.

    Me thinks the original was hand written, like here:

    http://www.archives.gov/national_ar...e.php?fileref=1

    There's 3 commas IIRC."


    They had printing presses. I downloaded your link, and it looked to me to be the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution of the United State of America, or Bill of Rights.

    Keep in mind, the constitution took years to ratify, unlike the Declaration of Independence. They didn't have copy machines. If they wanted to send copies to people in different states in order for the states to debate the issue, they would have printed it on a printing press and couried them out. Surely, the final draft was also printed. The Declaration of Independence was a hand written LETTER to King George. It was not a law document.

    Where did you see three commas?

    And just in case you saw a hand written version of the Bill of Rights, that certainly would not have been the version that was debated and ratified. They would have used printed text. Afterall, the printing press was invented in 1436 by Johannes Gutenberg.
     
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    I believe the National Archives keeps VERY high resolution photos of the Constitution/Bill of Rights on their website. Why not just go to the source?
     
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    From Natl Archives & Records Administration

    NARA - Bill of Rights
     
  7. Harve Curry

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    Howdy Big G,
    I followed the link you posted. That is a typed in transcript, not a photograph of an original text. I have several books all with slightly different capital or no capital letters, commas or no commas.
    So which is version is true to the original document?
     
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    I followed one of the NARA links and found the hi-res image of the Bill of Rights.

    Bill of Rights Image (15MB jpg)

    Unfortunately, it has the screwy commas. Also, there are twelve articles listed, and the first two seem not to have hung around. I'm not a Constitutional scholar.
     
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    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26266&highlight=comma

    http://www.constitution.org/cons/bill.jpg

     
  10. GigaBuist

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    D'oh! I'm a moron and linked to the DOI instead of BOR.

    NARA's photograph of the original manuscript should show 3 though... somebody else linked to it.
     
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    Just to throw a little extra into the mix: The printers of the time were 'in charge' of punctuation and capitalization as there were few standards.

    A document sent to two printers could be set diferently.
     
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    necess

    I'm just guessing, but I'd say they only had one c in "necessary"


    :neener:
     
  13. Standing Wolf

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    The so-called "standards" differ from one to another to this very day. A document sent to two editors will show differences.

    American English is a very democratic language.
     
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    "security of a free state"

    We are at war,are we not?
    It seems to me that the U.S gov't is resricting our RKBA - couldn't we bring a lawsuit to restore the 2nd for reasons of National Security?
     
  15. Inoxmark

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    I forget where I saw this, but it goes something like:

    A well educated society, being necessary to the prosperity of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed.

    Here, nobody in their right mind would insist that the right to have books is limited only to "well educated", no matter how many commas in this sentence, or which words are capitalized.
     
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