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Orphan guns?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by SaxonPig, Jan 30, 2010.

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  1. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Member

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    With the news that Charles Daly is going under, I started thinking about the guns I own that were made by companies that have since gone defunct. At least I think they have closed their doors.

    I really need to get out, more. Except for Daly, I am not sure which of the following companies are still operating.


    Here's my one and only CD product.


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    Is IJ currently out of business? Seems like the name comes and goes.


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    I think the Interarms brand name is histoire, no?


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    How about Stoeger? They still importing guns?


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    Are all Norincos banned from importation or are "sporting" arms still allowed in?


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    Is H&R still doing business? I lose track.


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    Savage/Stevens still around?


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    Marlin?


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  2. Zoidberg523

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    I'm not sure if they kept the name "Interarms", but Rossi is still around; Stoeger is still very much in business; H&R are also, I believe, in business, as is Savage (Though without the "Stevens" brand name), and Marlin is still one of the larger companies. Looks like you didn't miss too much. :)

    Nice collection, by the way.
     
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    How about Star?

    For home or range, I think that their DA/SA Mod 30MI is the best 9MM I've ever shot. It's a bit much for concealed carry, though.

    It never jams, eats everything, comes apart in no time, has a DA trigger like in nice K-frame, shoots naturally to POA, never breaks, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum. They're available online for $300 or so and Ramline's 17 round 5900 mags work in the gun. I'd take this thing to war with me; it's a brutal gun.

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  4. ol' scratch

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    Star is no more. Too bad. I really like their 9mm 1911 clone.
     
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    isnt stevens still around, as the savage budget line, without the accutrigger, and accustock?
     
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    Charles Daly still imports/produces guns.
     
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    Stoege is still in benelli owns them and Marlin still makes guns but the Camp Carbine has not been made since 1999
     
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    Yes, stevens is still around as the savage budget line, and makes some fine guns for the money.

    Anyone buying a Savage rifle to build into a precision shooter would be well advised to buy the Stevens, as it is much cheaper and you will be replacing most of lower quality parts anyway.

    Norinco guns are still imported, only "assault weapons" are banned. I see quite a few tactical shotguns with the Norinco name on them for under $200 but you need to be a behomoth to work the slide.
     
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    Needs no label.

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  11. SaxonPig

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    Didn't know Star was gone. OK, add this one.


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  12. zoom6zoom

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    Interarms was an importer, not a manufacturer. Guns with their name were built by others for them.

    I'll add Sterling and Whitney to the list.
     
  13. Larry Ashcraft

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    Wasn't Rossi bought by Taurus a while back? And I think the H&R name is being carried on by NEF.
     
  14. SaxonPig

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    I believe Taurus did buy Rossi.

    I know Interarms was just an importer and the guns were made by others (note how I titled the pump rifle photo) but the name was on the guns.
     
  15. Sunray

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    H&R was owned by Marlin. Both are now owned by Remington. NEF is gone.
     
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    Daly was never a maker, only a marketing company - their old guns were made reputable firms and well made, the newer ones not so much. They may or may not be back. SKB has recently closed their doors as well. Stoeger is part of Beretta's family of guns. Marlin, H&R/NEF are Remington. Savage is still alive and doing well
     
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    A distinction should be made as to what constitutes an "orphan." A gun discontinued by a manufacturer - as opposed to a manufacturer going out of business - is not necessarily an "orphan" as long as the maker still "supports" them, i.e., continues to provide parts and service. Ruger still repairs "-Six" revolvers even after they've been out of production for over 25 years, for example. Also, K.B.I./"Charles Daly" is - was - an importer, not a manufacturer. It will surely be possible to find parts and service for these firearms.
     
  18. GunsAmerica Fan

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    Exactly Haranguer. Charles Daly is just a marketing company name that they purchased years ago after it went defunct. You used to be able to buy Charles Daley shotguns from the sears catalog, and in the fifteen years or so they have brought the name back to a known commodity again. They have been purchasing copies from all over the world, mostly from Turkey, and marketing them under the CD name. I have two auto shotguns that are just copies of the winchester. CD will be back within a few years after someone else buys it.

    Star is owned by the spanish government I believe, and I'm sure we'll see them again. The most accurate out of the box pistols I have ever bought are my used Spanish police Star BMs, bought at a gun show for under $200 with two mags.
     
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