other gun-friendly countries?

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Unloaded rifles being transported. Anything else is illegal.

Same goes for Israel, aside from special units the rifles carried by the military in public are unloaded and while the civilians are armed as well there are big restrictions on carry and storage.
No right to own or carry, you possess at the pleasure of the state.
 
Israel has brutally restrictive firearms laws.

If you are a reservist you are allowed ONE handgun. One. Singular.
If you are a bus driver, One Handgun.
If a jeweler/pawnbroker/moneylender, One handgun.

If you are a settler or business owner in one of the "exciting" areas you can have, guess what, ONE handgun.

--me the last time this came up
 
Chapter and verse on Canadian firearm laws for Americans:

http://panda.com/canadaguns/

btw, the 8-rd enbloc clips for the Garand are specifically exempt from the Canadian federal capacity limit laws applicable to semi-autos. Nice rule beater.

Until another Canadian rule beater for the AR15 platform was created (10 rd .223 Rem pistol magazines), I had to choose between 8 rds of .30-06 and 5 rds of .223 Rem for a semi-auto. (Among many other options).

Now I can get legal 10-round .223 Rem magazines that will work in my AR15-pattern rifle :)

https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/q_images/LAR%20Pistol%20Mags%20Ruling%202008-06-18.pdf
 
South Africa is not a great choice. Even those who had firearms licenses had to reapply for new licenses. A basic summary is:

1) You apply for a license for a particular firearm (as specified by serial number).
2) It is difficult to get multiple firearms for the same role (such as two pistols for self defense).
3) You are at the mercy of corrupt government officials and subject to long waiting times for license approvals.

SA has little going for it: unless you have a short term business or research opportunity there, it is probably best just to write it off as a new place of residence.
 
The truth is, the belief that a few millions gun-wielding Joes could take down a government protected by well trained, well lead, and loyal army is outright silly

Not true at all.
One of the biggest things it keeps alive is an attitude of self-reliance as it pertains to force that can contribute to a population with a mindset that has the will to win.
Those firearms themselves are also not all it takes, directly taking on formal organized forces in any standoff is a losing proposition as they will then coordinate and bring their greater resources to bear.
Groups of armed men clustering together will easily be taken down, especially from the air.
They also have developed equipment to tell the direction one is firing from to eliminate snipers in Iraq, something sure to be employed by modern nations in any future rebellion.
IEDs, improvised artillery, and other indirect methods are required to attack better equipped modern forces.
However firearms do help when cornered, or to assist explosives in ambushes.

A very key difference in an insurgency or civil war from say recent conflicts in Iraq or Afghanistan is that the economy that provides the money to support the military is hit harder at home than when they are deployed abroad.
This means in a civil war the economy generating the tax dollars funding the well equipped forces suffers, and over time can no longer support them.
You don't see this in a war abroad because the economy is not being destroyed from within by war. So the tax revenue the military depends on is not impacted.
But when there is extensive disruption in the militaries own nation, things are different, and they have to start getting outside economic help just to stay afloat.
However at the same time some civilians start starving, and things get really ugly. All families would be seeing an impact some much worse than others before it got to the point that the government was collapsing from lack of tax dollars.
You also start getting people loyal to the insurgency joining the military, and attacking from within, seen even in Afghanistan today where they try to screen out such people with the help of capable intelligence agencies.
A few guards that turn their machineguns inwards here and there really creates havoc and destroys morale and soldiers start wondering who the next soldier to turn and kill them will be.


Beyond guns the population can make anything. The IRA was making its own mortars from basic things for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrack_buster

Various groups in the middle east launch relatively easy to build rockets fitted with warheads in mass at enemy forces on a regular basis.
These are also indirect fire weapons.




Now a civil war or insurgency is certainly not something you want to see. In fact it is a primary tool for defeating nations today by others. Just look at the strategy in Afghanistan today, training 'security forces' to battle the former government and its supporters. It is essentially outsiders using the population against themselves to defeat the enemy. A key role of special forces for quite some time, locate people not loyal to the enemy, and turn them into fighters against your enemy.Done in most modern conflicts, and quite extensive in Vietnam and other extended conflicts.

There is also very few people as noble and selfless as George Washington, that go from leading the opposition military forces, being chosen as the head of the government after victory, and then stepping down on their own or willingly without consolidating power and become a tyrant worse than what you had before. He had the backing of the military he led, and was popular with the people. So he could have stalled and consolidated power and undid pretty much any brand new framework that was not really established that he wanted to.
Many men in the same situation just become the new tyrant.

So even the most noble of revolutions is just a roll of the dice as to what will happen even if won. Sometimes you get a France situation where they guillotined many people, and kept suspecting new people of things and killing many in prior leadership positions out of paranoia.
Or the purges as done under Stalin after Lenin died and that government founded in a historic peoples' revolution took a very dark turn in a direction far different than what had been envisioned to become ultra authoritarian.

Peaceful methods are always the ideal method of change, but a well armed people are definitely a force to be reckoned with.
 
As for the OP's question, you won't find many places like the US in the world.
The United Nations works to actively put an end to any with firearm freedoms too.


A lot of well funded powerful groups, especially in Europe (with anti-gun leaders that demonstrate a lot more intelligence in their methods and statements) work towards disarmament.


A lot of places with freedoms like gun rights also attract rebels and others escaping more restrictive governments. So they become hotbeds of 'freedom fighters', 'terrorists', etc
Yemen was and is a prime example. With gun rights that make those of the US seem minimal enjoyed for a long time.
But from extensive international pressure and European groups they managed to get the government to pass some restrictions (generally ignored in most of the nation outside the capitol from my understanding) just a few years ago.
Here is an anti-gun European video that shows some of the markets and culture shortly after even the anti-gun legislation. (Notice they focus on the negatives, including the person injured in an accident something you can find in the US if you look as well. It is typical anti-gun rhetoric):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI_AGXb1-Ec

The nation is now also seen as the biggest terrorist threat. Even called a potential 'terrorist state' because what the people there want is not what most of the international leaders want running a country.
Unfortunately you won't be able to go there, because the international politics mean your life will be in danger if people know you are an American.


Letting your people have guns and a gun culture is not acceptable to our modern world government. The US takes a lot of heat over it as well and it is only because of a firmly established well funded culture that our own rights withstand international pressure. If the USA wasn't the big powerful nation it is such rights would have been reduced from international pressure as well.
Third world nations with such rights have anti-gun groups from wealthy first world nations embark on campaigns and remove such freedoms, able to easily outspend opposition by several times. While we have pro-gun groups in the US to battle such individuals, they tend to be very effective in a several pronged approach in third world nations.
They get other nation leaders to put pressure to curb the flow of firearms, and increase requirements for ownership and reduce legal types that can be owned as well.
Even our own nation has a leading role in curbing the flow of weapons to civilians that want them outside of US borders stemming from such international efforts.
Just look at how ITAR is applied or the red tape in taking a gun to another nation.
They really work to restrict 'small arms and light weapons', and keep weapons only in the hands of government on a global scale.
A percentage of wealthy citizens in many nations are tolerated, because they are not seen as much threat, in fact the wealthy with a comfortable lifestyle are the least likely to cause trouble.
This means coming from the US you may find yourself able to get special privileges some of the locals cannot in some former third world locations, as a member of a more wealthy class.
Not really gun rights, but you may benefit and still be able to have some yourself.
 
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In my opinion, a person makes a grave mistake by making the availability of firearms his top priority when choosing a new country to relocate to.
Economic and political stability and basic standards of living and education are very important and cannot be compensated for by having a pistol on your hip.
If that was not the case, I would never have left South Africa and moved to the UK.
 
I thought Saddam was an Islamist?

Certainly not. He was nominally a Muslim but ran a decidedly secular country. "Islamist" means something specific and he was HATED by Islamists. He killed them by the thousands.

The folks we have seen as enemies of our country come from a HUGELY varied set of beliefs, practices, backgrounds, faiths, and ideologies -- from far to the left, far to the right, and at both extremes of the more enlightened political matrices. And we traditionally have tragically flawed understandings of who they are, who their enemies are, and why they do what they do.
 
Zoogster

Thank you for the detailed and well articulated comment.

However, I think you're proving my point, actually. :)

The guns is not what makes people win. A determined, united, spirited, well lead, massive uprising will eventually prevail even if they don't have guns to begin with. And they will prevail not by killing the soldiers, but by turning the majority of the people to their cause, including some of the current and most of the future soldiers.

Moreover, having just light arms (which is all that you can buy legally anyway, and that covers fully automatic weapons which are still light arms - heck, even RPG's are light arms) is not much better than having no arms at all. Most insurgents use explosive devices as their main means of attack, anyway. So you could argue than 2A should be primarily applied not to the guns, but to the fertilizer. :what: "The right to bear bags of fertilizer" doesn't sound that good though.
 
I don't mean to sound disrespectful to "Joe" - I am merely stating the fact that a 400,000 strong modern army with well train, well equipped, and loyal professional troops will win a war against a 4,000,000 strong army of poorly trained, poorly armed, and poorly led conscripts.

Reminds me of WWII, Germany V. Russia. Russia won because of sheer numbers. At a point they had more men then rifles and gave a stripper clip of ammo to some and a rifle to others. When the one with the rifle died, one without a rifle grabbed that one and continued to use it. Almost every aspect of the Russian military was inferior except for numbers.
 
Reminds me of WWII, Germany V. Russia. Russia won because of sheer numbers. At a point they had more men then rifles and gave a stripper clip of ammo to some and a rifle to others. When the one with the rifle died, one without a rifle grabbed that one and continued to use it. Almost every aspect of the Russian military was inferior except for numbers.

This is simply not true. The real picture of war against Germany is so convoluted by propaganda on both sides, it's very hard to get a true feel of what really happened. By the way, Russian side of WW2 is one of my favorite topics, as both of my grandparents fought in it and one never came back.

For starters, the Soviets were equipped much, much, much better than Germans at the start of the war. In everything except perhaps the air force. This is a fact that both sides tried to hide - Germans because nobody was supposed to be superior in any way, Soviets because they absolutely spectacularly lost the opening part of the war and needed something to blame to hide the fact that the loss was 90% due to poor leadership at the very top. So the myth of empty-handed soldiers rushing tanks was born. I am sure many things like this indeed happened while they were desperately trying to stop German advance on Moscow, as a last-ditch effort, but the truth is, the Soviet army was very well equipped, OK trained (although not at the level of the German army), not badly led up to the regiment or perhaps division level, but unbelievably poorly led strategically.

The 1941 German advance, even though very spectacular, was in reality slowed down very significantly - the whole Barbarossa thing was a huge gamble and depended on a very tight schedule that was never met. And it was slowed down by a very stiff resistance of individual army units, that fought stubbornly while deprived of any real strategic leadership.

If you want to see the sheer numbers, look at China. They lost to the Japanese, despite the fact that they were much more numerous.
 
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