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Our right to arms: What's at stake this November

Discussion in 'Legal' started by progunner1957, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. progunner1957

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    Alan Korwin makes it plain as to what's at stake in this November election regarding our right to arms:

    EVERYTHING.


    Folks, don't make the mistake of saying, "That can't happen here." It is that kind of thinking that can make it happen here!
     
  2. orangelo

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    I got enough reasons not to vote for a Donkey without even considering their gun-control fetish.

    I plan on voting straight R next month.

    If the donkeys want to ever have a chance of winning my vote they'll have to ditch the boxers, feinsteins, pelosis, launtenbergs, kerries, kennedies mccarthies, waters, jackson-lees, obamas, conyers, well hrm... maybe they should just forget about it. :rolleyes:
     
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    I realize there is a strong anti-gun lobby with the Democrats, but this thing reads like one of thise silly email chain letters that is supposedly "100% true!".
     
  4. progunner1957

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    As far as our right to arms goes, you can't go too far wrong if you vote straight Republican.

    90 to 95% of the Democrats - those in Congress especially - have proven themselves to be antigun bigots by their past voting records.

    Except for the fact that it is true. This is what they want. Look at "Brady Bill 2" to get it straight from their own mouths.
     
  5. Soybomb

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    Sadly a vote for the republicans is also a vote for things like The Military Commissions Act of 2006.


    I love having to pick which rights are important and which I can cast aside.
     
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    It's become a contest of either letting one side trash the 2nd amendment, or letting the other side trash ALL of the others. And if that side gets too cocky, they might well go for that one, too.

    Gridlock is good.
     
  7. ArmedBear

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    Federal and SCOTUS Judges are at the top of the list.

    Soybomb, what Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, et al. did during wartime makes that look like nothing.

    Just a little perspective...
     
  8. ArmedBear

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    Ludicrous moonbattery.

    All the others? Give me a break.
     
  9. Manedwolf

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    1st: People cuffed by Secret Service for yelling "F-you" at Cheney, people arrested for t-shirts, for not acting like the pre-vetted bobblehead crowd at a speech was supposed to act. Administration-endorsed villification of people who dare disagree. Forced religiousity of the state-branded flavor. Using taxpayer dollars for faith-based groups.

    3rd: Okay, nobody's gotten THIS one yet. We have plenty of barracks.

    4th: Sneak and peek searches, wiretaps without FISA warrants, library records, etc.

    5th: Suspension of Habeus Corpus and no access to attorney, tortured or otherwise intimidated to talk in ways that can incriminate one's self.

    6th: Held indefinitely without trial. There goes that one.

    7th: No right to trial by jury if Bush or his people so decide. Military tribunal.

    8th: Cruel and unusual punishment? Hm. Waterboarding? Wonder when they'll start doing it to American citizens, too. Or have they?

    9th: Do you even have to ask?

    10th: State's rights? Yeah, right. With Homeland Sekurity stepping all over that, and the National Guard units all sucked away to the sandbox. Not to mention the Schaivo bit of federal intrusion in a state matter.

    So there you go.
     
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    I'm with Manedwolf. Gridlock is good.There is nothing "conservative" about most of the Pubbies in office and they'll have to earn *my* vote if they ever want it again.

    Biker
     
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    another vote for manedwolf's view. atleast if dems were in power I'd be able to bit*h and moan about them taking my rights. with the current powers I'd probably be dragged away as an unpatriotic terror suspect because I'm not following blindly. both parties stink right now. if only we could figure out a way to send the message for congress to get back to its true purpose, including countering the other branches and doing whats in my best interest (also including fighting tooth and nail for each of my freedoms).
     
  13. Derek Zeanah

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    I'm sorry folks - the Republicans aren't what they used to be. If they want to promise a "contract with america" style platform then they'll get my vote - you know, smaller government and more freedom.

    Instead, I think voting republican gets more of the same of what we've seen since Bush got in office - less rights and more government.

    You can say "it'll be worse if we don't vote for more of the same!" That's fine for you, but I refuse to say "thank you Sir, may I have another?"

    I'll not vote before I vote republican.
     
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    I've been pushing for gridlock since the 2002 mid term elections.

    I don't support much of anything about the Democrats, but the Republicans have given us more damaging legislation than the Democrats ever did under Bill Clinton.

    With the Republicans in control, we now have
    Campaign Finance Reform, Medicare Reform/Drug Program, No Child Left Behind, No plan to control the border and stop illegal immigration, Patriot Act, and perpetual War on Terrorism with no cohesive plan on what to do next, nuclear weapons in N. Korea (and soon to be in Iran) and the largest, most intrusive federal bureaucracy of all time.

    The Republican lap dogs are yapping about how bad things would be with the Democrats in charge, but please tell me how a party who claims to be for limited, unobtrusive government, fiscal responsibilty, and a strong national defense could let these things happen???
     
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    Both parties are for bigger government. But the dems are much worse regarding individual freedom. I'd hold my nose and vote for an antigun republican before a pro-gun democrat. It's about political control, I don't want the dems in control. Yes it's a choice between s#!t and stink, but it's been that way since FDR. Joe
     
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    Which would be a vote FOR gun control. I would do the exact opposite.
     
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    Does anyone believe the author got that list anywhere other than a lower bodily orfice? Or is he hacking into Fienstein's databases?
     
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    Our right to arms: What's at stake this November

    Apathy, Lies Rigged Voting, Media Making Money on Ads,Graft, Lies, Shortage on KY, Lies,Backroom Shady Deal...

    That is just the Critters running for office and the various Politcal Machines Meddlin' with not only The Second Amendment - but the COTUS, BoR and the whole fabric of our Republic.

    I have never ever voted for a Democrat, and I ain't about to start now. Screw 'em, feed 'em fish heads and rice.

    Republicans - not much difference, just one party is spelled different than the other.

    So I basically, for ME, I piss folks off, say what is on my mind, and let both Parties know they have FAILED. I voted Libertarian last time for the white house spot, and other spots around here locally. I knew of a few Republicans, and they are more Liberatarians that Elephants so I voted for these locally and really did spit in front of and told one Donkey to shut the heck up!

    Hey, we have had All these Parties , on campus wanting to get a Candidate on the Ballot. Darn straight I will sign a Petition for some I can believe in, at least send the message - "we ain't voting for for what you are selling - cow pasture full of that stuff anyway".

    I said it is time to show we have some Gonads and take back what is ours.

    Heck The Great Pumpkin has got more sense and understanding than the elected folks we got now...

    Just me you understand.
     
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    I'm voting with the Supreme Court and other appointed judges in mind.

    I pretty much agree with Dereks whole post except for the fact President Bush may get a chance to oppoint another SC Justice. Probably a whole host of other judges.

    If you think the Presidents judicial picks are as bad as what the Democrats want then you haven't been paying attention.

    I'm all for punishing the "forgot my core values" Republicans, just not at the expense of turning this country over to the higher taxes, cut and run, we are the problem with the world, even bigger government is better crowd.

    Lets save the gridlock until after the next SC Justice retires.
     
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    The Supreme Court Justices are a crap shoot, no matter who picks them.

    Sandra Day O'Connor was appointed by Reagan, and voted with the liberals more often than the conservatives.

    After George Bush appointed Harriet Miers, I have little confidence that he is really putting much thought into his picks.
     
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    Gridlock is good and I hope this happens. But with the GOP sooooo damn moderate (the Conservatives still being locked away in the WashingtonDC closet)
    I'm not confidant that the Dems taking one or both houses will cause the GOP to look in their pants to see of they have any balls left to fight back.

    I would love to believe gridlock will "save the day" But from a Pro-govt loving GOP I doubt they would even put a sunset clause in a new Assault weapons Ban!!!!! Hell in 1994 thats the only thing they could "compromise" on. When they should have filibustered, stopped the world from spinning....do whatever it took not to have that AWB become law in the first place.

    I will not reward the GOP with a vote (the past ear mark spending alone will make me protest them) ......lets see how they act with losing the house......will this give them "religion"? Will they show that they care about the conservative base? They maybe they will start deserving votes again.


    Tried of radio talkshow hosts already blaming Gop voters if they dont vote for the party. Dont blame me for the GOP earmark spending orgies PAL!!! How does voting for them correct their behavior???? please anybody let me know.......
     
  23. Prince Yamato

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    Hmm let's see

    Republicans: Big Gov't, lets me keep my guns
    Democrats: Bigger Gov't and more socialist, takes my guns

    I'll vote Republican.
     
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    So now we depend on the Republicans to let us exercise our Constitutional rights? Screw 'em, I'm voting Libertarian and Republicans and Democrats both be damned.
     
  25. GoRon

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    Ruth Bader Ginsburg, John Paul Stevens vs John Roberts and Samual Alito, no contest.

    There is always the possibility of a Souter:barf: slipping through but even H Miers would be better than Ginsburg.
     
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