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Out of curiosity...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by nick012000, Jun 23, 2006.

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  1. nick012000

    nick012000 Member

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    Which would you rather lose: the right to vote, or the right to bear arms?

    Believe it or not, I actually saw this on a dating site matchmaking question section.
     
  2. cz75bdneos22

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    right to vote
     
  3. Fly320s

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    Right to vote.

    Firearms, and the proper mindset, can go a long way in restoring the right to vote.
     
  4. DigitalWarrior

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    Lose the recognition of the right to vote.

    Hilarity will ensue...

    I figure if they are even contemplating disenfranchising me, we are doing OK at keeping them honest. The more workable and devious solution is to implement a system whereby I may vote, but my vote is not counted, or overwhelmed by false votes. If I manage to remove the paper-trail it is the perfect crime.

    Luckily I do not ever have to worry about that


    Oh....


    Well Crap...:)
     
  5. GTSteve03

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    If I remember my US History correctly...

    The right to vote was not a universal right in the original Constitution. However, the right to bear arms was.

    So, I would rather lose the right to vote, as the founding fathers obviously didn't feel it was as important.
     
  6. Biker

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    As long as I bear arms, I guarandamnTEE I have the right to vote in one form or another.;)

    Biker
     
  7. WT

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    Looking at the state election returns and the actions of my 'representatives' it appears that I have already lost the right to vote.
     
  8. Molon Labe

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    Voting is way overrated. And I don't consider it to be an inalienable right.
     
  9. Gordon Fink

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    Bearing arms is a natural right, while voting is a civil right. Though one can lose the right to vote, one cannot lose the right to bear arms.

    ~G. Fink
     
  10. DoubleTapDrew

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    +1!
    Voting (in elections anyway) is just trying to decide who is going to take away less of your freedoms.
     
  11. Molon Labe

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    voting = statutory right = civil right

    voting ≠ natural right = inalienable right
     
  12. Mongo the Mutterer

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    Ballot Box

    Soap Box

    Cartridge Box


    The reason I don't want the UN to take away my cartridge box is because I believe they eventually want to steal the ballot box too. But with the cartridge box we can regain the ballot box.

    I'm sparring with the issue...:p
     
  13. rev214

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    already lost the right to vote...liberal judges nullify my votes all the time...:banghead:
     
  14. Camp David

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    Gordon: While I agree fully with your first sentence; your second is logically unsound. In many governments, the right to bear arms has been removed from the individual, thus your statement is in error. Even here in our own nation, areas outside your own home are effectively neutralized from your "bearing arms" environment without lots of additional permits; i.e., concealed carry permit and open-carry areas are increasingly rare. Thus, for the purposes of discussion, this nation is slowly denying the right you say you cannot loose!

    While I fully support the Second Amendment, I wouldn't want to live within its republic if the right to vote was denied. Therefore, that right is more primary to me than the one that offers self defense.
     
  15. calzoom

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    Up here in WA our votes are stolen, hidden, or declared invalid buy a Federal Judge Activist's who are owned by a certain political party. From Fancy stadiums to Governors it matters not.

    So I guess I have to side on Bearing Arms.
     
  16. longeyes

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    #3: The right to date.
     
  17. Gordon Fink

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    The right to arms can be suppressed, but it cannot be taken away. Even where one’s right to arms has been infringed, it is still possible to acquire and carry weapons “illegally.” Even inmates in maximum-security prisons frequently manage to arm themselves.

    ~G. Fink
     
  18. loadedround

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    Biker: That was well said! My sentiments exactly.
     
  19. Carl N. Brown

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    Which would you rather lose: the right to vote, or the right to bear arms?


    I had ancestors who were denied both rights. Hummmmmm.

    Which would I rather lose, lungs to breath air or heart to pump blood?

    Neither.

    As for voting,
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  20. Yakko

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    If you lose one the other is likely to follow.:uhoh:
     
  21. oldfart

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    Voting at a ballot box is nice and the preferred way to do things, but, as a last resort, voting from the rooftops is also possible if you have guns.
     
  22. TX1911fan

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    I look at it this way. If I lose the right to vote first, I still have a means to get that right back if I remain armed. If I am effectively disarmed, however, I have no means to restore any rights infringed thereafter. There is a reason that the 2A is called "America's First Freedom." Without it, no other freedoms can be assured. Whether we are willing to fight for them is another question.
     
  23. Molon Labe

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    You are incorrect.

    You are confusing the existence of a right with the practice of a right.

    As an example, every Japanese citizen (who is not in jail) has a right to keep and bear arms. But the Japanese government has forbid the citizens from practicing this right.

    It is impossible for a government to confiscate your inalienable rights; they are part of you. A government can only forbid you from exercising them.
     
  24. Lupinus

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    right to vote

    lot more likly to restore the right to vote while still baring arms, then it is to restore the right to bare arms through voting
     
  25. Otherguy Overby

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    Does a politician have a constitutionally garranteed right to life?

    Just how should we vote? Bullets or ballots?
     
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