Discussion in 'Hunting' started by GreenWing, May 15, 2020.
If walking/wading for woodies like we do in middle Georgia, the beating a waterfowling piece gets suggests that a beater pump is the way to go. Imagine firing a barrel with mud in the muzzle? $400 up to replace a barrel set, vs $100 for a used Rem 870 remchoke barrel.
Secondarily, non lead shot (except bismuth or polymer matrix) is hard on barrels, and can ruin both barrels of an expensive twin.
When I was marauding waterfowl, I used a Rem 1187SP (camo) as my primary, with a pawn shop picked up Rem 870 Express as a backup. I have multiple barrel sets for both.
I later aquired for $125 a Charles Daley 20ga pump that I use to hike into beaver swamps with a bag of decoys. I hurt a LOT of feelings with that little gun with it’s rattle can camo job and #6 tungsten loads...
Imagine the looks I got the next time I showed up with my CZ Golden Pheasant 20s/s and Bismuth loads wearing a tweed shooting jacket and Orvis vest (I got for $15 at GoodWill!)...
Too bad the ducks/geese didn’t show.
I say just stick with the pump...
I've used all 3 for ducks/geese.
I wouldn't use a nice double on waterfowl, just due to the normal conditions. While 2 chokes are cool, I get more use out of them upland hunting when you have the flush, and 90% of the time the next shot is at a greater distance. You can get the same effect in a single barrel to some extent by varying your shot size.
After being a died in the wool pump guy, I switched to an auto (Benelli SBE) for waterfowl when I moved back to the Midwest as I spent more time in both layout boats and blinds. Can't tell you how many times I short-shucked a pump on a crossing target while sitting and swinging right to left. My doubles and even triples increased on honkers dramatically while hunting over decoys with the SBE. Ducks stayed about the same, but they have a better ability to "get out of dodge" when the shooting starts.
I do like semi autos, though. Their relatively soft recoil with heavy loads is great. I have a cheap old Winchester that still works great for this. If I was still able to hunt ducks, I think I'd be looking for another semi auto, maybe a Remington, maybe a Benelli or something. But, my duck hunting days are at least on hold if not over due to cancer. I'm very anemic and am waiting on MD Anderson to consult for a bone marrow transplant. Even if I can whip the cancer, I'm older than dirt. I'll turn 70 in a few years, so just how long can I do anything this athletic? Wading in a salt marsh is a young man's activity, hard on bodies as well as shotguns.
i would love to be at a level where I could afford a double for the same use. At the time, $100 was forever. Use what you want, what you shoot well, and don’t lose sleep over what happens to it. It is a tool that helps bring you joy in sharing a hunt with people you want to be around....
I got a CZ Redhead Delux some time back. It's never shot a duck and will never go duck hunting. It's my dove gun, pretty gun. I sit on my dove stool when hunting and just admire it. It's never been in a boat, either, LOL.
As for bird hunting, I started out with my Grandpa hunting doves about age 10. I started duck hunting at 14. I've always preferred waterfowl, but older I get, I find doves a lot more relaxing and less strenuous. And, being able to chat with friends and not being wet and cold, well, it has its advantages. I do miss the calling, but I can live without it.
Yup, cause it's going to happen. I grew up hunting salt marshes in RI and CT, I've had guns go overboard, knocked over by retrievers, gotten dunked when I fell over, etc. etc. Salt water is extremely hard on guns. Completely breaking down a gun after it's gone for a swim is a PITA. I wouldn't use a gun I wasn't prepared to replace.
Good friend of mine uses an 870 that he just repaints with Krylon after the season. I had my BPS parkerized and my SBE has a factory dipped camo finish with a chrome lined bore. My Brownings, SKB, Parker, and AH Fox are reserved for doves, quail, and ditch chickens.
Duck hunting can be the hardest type of hunting for a gun. There could be times where the best way to initially clean one is to hose the mud off in the yard before bringing it in the house at the end of the day. Not many people willing to abuse a $1000+ double like that, but a $300 pump will take it and come back for more the next day.
hear that but it is simply impossible to make a decent double gun that can retail for $450. Pot metal internals, probably extractors only, poorly regulated barrels, poorly affixed ribs. Won’t last a season in the duck blinds.
A little looking may turn up a used Miroku made Charles Daly, possibly an SKB, or even an older Win 101 (check for fit) in the $500-$600 range.
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I got my camo Mossberg 500 for less than $300 in the early 90s and it still shoots well. It's been on many duck hunts in the salt marsh, has had mud and salt water dunks over the years that didn't seem to phase it. I like the plastic stocks it came with. I shimmed the stock so that it would fit me, works really well. The painted camo dip seems to really shed the rust monster. When I hunted at least twice a week during the season, nearly every day I had off, that Mossy was always there. I had a Mossberg built shotgun labeled "Revelation M310" up until I got the camo Mossberg to replace it. I really didn't need to replace it. It'd been used so much, fired so many rounds, it was smooth as silk and practically pumped itself. It didn't cost me, but a motorcycle frame I wasn't using, didn't want. I just saw that camo gun and liked the finish. And, it was a deal. It's held up much better than my poor old Sarasqueta Spanish built double.
No matter what you're hunting with, lube and pull and clean the chokes when you get home as a matter of routine.
Remember to wax EVERY part, so take the gun down and get to those areas as well.
I don't have a problem with pass shooting, but I'd take two ducks over decoys vs four pass shot ducks any day. Nothing quite like watching them lock up over decoys.
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