OWB for concealed carry 1911---which one?

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Want leather that wears like Kydex? Like a holster with a mouth that doesn't collapse when the pistol's drawn? Like the classic look of shiny black leather? How 'bout some Kramer horsehide -- the one below I bought new about 1998, and it's carried several Commanders. Supremely comfortable, moderately high-rising pancake that conceals extremely effectively.
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My favorite holster is an IWB from TT Gunleather. While I don’t have one of their OWB holsters yet, I have no doubt they make a good one. As it is, my most comfortable and concealable OWB holster is one from Don Hume. It pushes the grip in to the body. My only complaint about it is that it doesn’t retain my gun very well. They make one with a thumb break, though, which I may try.
 
About the late 1990's I got a Minute Man holster and still have not found a better one, 1911 & Glock have 2, leather and still use it daily. Prior I used a Seventrees.
 
Wilson Lo Profile (pancake?)
Or Milt Sparks Professional (55BN?)
I'm primarily looking for conceal-ability and comfort.

Any experiences? Thoughts? Alternative suggestions?

Those two holster styles are entirely different.
I have the Wilson Lo Profile it meets probably your requirements perfectly. Mine does not have the reinforcing mouth so it conforms and carries close to the body, rides high, and could easily be used with an untucked shirt and go unnoticed while carrying my commander sized 1911.

Every 55BN I have owned including MS, put the gun lower and moved it more away from my body. Bear in mind the MS will be much thicker leather. I do not use my gun for any competition so spending hours and hours drawing and reholstering a nonfactor for me. I work in my holster so comfort and concealment are very important to me.

Both holster styles work well but for different purposes and I no longer own any 55BN styles from any maker due to the fact I like my guns tucked up close.
I will tell you to get a really stiff belt if you are planning on the utmost in concealment. A loaded 1911 will require a solid stiff belt to avoid your readjusting your pants every five minutes.
These two are from
they are their https://abetterbeltusa.com/ Ultimate reinforced belts in Buffalo and there is no sagging when you are carrying a full sized gun.
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I generally prefer pancakes, but note the ride height of the Lo-Profile and the 55BN from Wilson's site. They have pictures of both worn on the belt with a 5" 1911.

Lo-Profile https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Lo-Pro...d-15-Belt-Black-Leather/productinfo/LP1BLR15/

55BN https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Milt-Sparks-Professional-Full-Size-1911-Right-Hand-15-Belt-Black-Horsehide-with-Shark-Trim/productinfo/LCA-MSP-1/

Put both images side by side and I am pretty sure you will find the Pancake will ride just a bit higher but also note the comparison with the gun being tighter to the body. With the 55BN style, the front of the holster bulges outward as opposed to being sucked in. Both are tried and proven designs yet we all have a box of holsters in our homes.
 
The 55BN sticks out a lot. I dislike it intensely. If you need concealment, go with any pancake style holster over an Avenger style.

You also need to measure the thickness of your gun belt. Milt Sparks makes the channel on the 55BN tight and you may not be able to thread the belt through the slot. I sent mine back to have it resewn so I could get my Bigfoot Gun Belts reinforced holster through the slot. It was probably set for 1.4" for a 1.5" belt.

Forward cant is also minimal, so you're not only going to print at the outer edge of the slide, the butt is going to print through your shirt.

At least go to Privateer Leather. He'll set the cant to 25 or 30 degrees so the holster is at least somewhat useful.

The best concealability will be with the Milt Sparks Criterion or equivalent. It offers a 25 degree cant and all the advantages (and disadvantages) of an IWB holster. Make sure to order it with snap loops; never get the magnets.
 
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Carried my Commander for years in a Galco concealable. But back issues had me change to Fobus paddle. The Fobus doesnt hide it as well.

Sucks getting older LOL.

My HK rides in a Fobus as does my little LCP.

My Galco now collects dust. Nice stuff.....just not my thing anymore
 
Unlike the less astute, those of us who have experience in this area know that just about any holster (including all pictured here) is concealable.

Wear the holster you want, and dress to conceal.
 
You also need to measure the thickness of your gun belt. Milt Sparks makes the channel on the 55BN tight and you may not be able to thread the belt through the slot. I sent mine back to have it resewn so I could get my Bigfoot Gun Belts reinforced holster through the slot. It was probably set for 1.4" for a 1.5" belt.
This is a key point, though regarding the Milt Sparks belt, it is not the vertical dimension, I'm sure they are a legitimate 1.5" vertical, but rather the thickness. Sparks belts are on the thinner end of the typical dual layer belt spectrum, and Sparks holsters are cut for Sparks belts, and I believe Bigfoot belts have a reputation as being on the thicker end of the spectrum.

Sparks addresses this in their "Questions" section. https://www.miltsparks.com/questions.php

Our gun belts are made and have always been made of two layers of 6½ to 7 oz leather cut from the backbone of the hide. This equates to approximately 13/64” to 7/32” in overall thickness. Keep in mind that this is the belt thickness we fit our holsters to, and our holsters are intended to fit snug on the belt. Any manufacturers’ belt over 7/32" thick will be somewhat tighter in the loops of one of our holsters than on a belt of our own manufacture. Any measurement over 1/4" in overall thickness of leather and you may not be able to close the snaps over the belt!
 
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Im medium build ( used to be thin LOL ) and long waisted. So.....tighter and highe4 holsters work best for me.

I dont wear a vest or big shirts. Dress normal and then carry , dont dress to carry.
Am in open carry state but try to keep mine covered. If it sticks out some, dont care.

However, a small rig is super easy. The full size 9mm and 45 acp stuff..... nope. But fall is here so a sweatjacket works fine.

Unlike some folks.....i dont wear a hoodie in 90 degree heat LOL.
 
Waist size, where one wears the belt, matters, in whether the pancake-type holster is better, or the BN/Professional style is better. When I first started carrying, I had a 31” waist measurement, at the belt line, and all pancakes were torture devices. I have added a couple of inches, over the decades, and some pancakes are tolerable, for a short time period, but I still prefer a holster with one tunnel loop behind the holster body, and one outboard loop, a type established by Bruce Nelson, as the Professional. (That is where Milt Sparks got the “BN” holster name, as they cooperated.) Some makers use “Avenger” to describe this type, while others will use the term “scabbard*.” On a more-limited budget, I bought a Galco Avenger, long ago. (For 1911 IWB carry, and for revolver holsters, I have spent the money for Milt Sparks leather.) I later acquired a pre-owned Josh Bulman Forward Drop Scabbard, which remains a favorite. (I believe that he stopped taking orders, some time ago.)

I was reading Matt Del Fatti’s site, and saw that he recommended the tunnel-loop-with-outboard loop type of holster for leaner folks, and the pancake type for larger waist sizes. If I recall correctly, 32 inches was my waist size, at the time, and his site indicated that his tunnel-loop-plus-outboard-loop type would be the better holster choice. His site may well still have this fit information.

*Notably, however, some makers will use the word “scabbard” to refer to holsters that are what we are calling “pancakes.”
 
I will add that if something were to happen to my Josh Bulman FDS, I would replace it with a Sparks BN and/or a Kramer Vertical Scabbard, straight-vertical orientation, with horsehide being the material of choice.
 
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