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P14 Enfield extrator

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by AbeElias, Oct 30, 2013.

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  1. AbeElias

    AbeElias Member

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    Hi Everyone I am just looking for some help I want to convert a P14 Enfield to .308 Win. My concern is will the extractor deal with the non rimmed cartridge. Has anyone tried this? I know some have converted the P17 to .308.

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    Abe
     
  2. Kp321

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    Put a complete P17 bolt in. Problem solved. The 308 barrel will need to be machined to P17 configuration, coned breach and extractor slot.
     
  3. AbeElias

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    Thanks Kp321 so the receivers aren't the same I was thinking about getting a short chambered.
     
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    And headspaced.
     
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    call ssporters or liberty tree collectors and see if the 1917 extractor will fit on the p14 bolt
     
  6. Edarnold

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    The difference between the P14 and the M1917 is in the face of the bolt as well as the extractor. The P14 is cut for the .530" rim of the .303 round, while the M1917 bolt face is cut to fit the .473" diameter of the .30-06 (and the .308 Winchester). So even with the M1917 extractor, the P14 bolt would still probably drop the fired case on extraction. You may also run into feeding problems with the P14 magazine, the M1917 feed lips and follower were changed to reliably feed the longer rimless cartridge.

    I hate to rain on your parade, but I can think of few actions less suited to conversion to .308 Winchester than the P14. It's the heaviest military action commonly available, with a long bolt stroke that will accept full length magnum cartridges, and the previously mentioned bolt and magazine issues. Really not a great choice for a compact cartridge like the .308 Winchester.
     
  7. AbeElias

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    Well thanks everyone in looking at this thread I am going to move to make the .308 out of one of my Mauser actions and leave the P14 alone for a bit while keeping my eyes out for a P17. I have often read about the P14/P17 actions being suited to large cartridges but every time I think about building one, my shoulder and wallet seem to object. Not so much at the cost of building it but at the cost of keeping the rifle in ammo afterwards. The cost of the ammo is probably why building or having a .338 Lapua is just an idea for me.

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  8. fguffey

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    I have a P14 that is 30/06, another that is 308 Norma mag.

    I went to help a builder of bench rest type rifles, he, just that day, swore off of the P 14 as a don-er rifle. I had no ideal what he was talking about even after he explained 'it' to me. He allowed me the time to explain "I was confused", he allowed me one suggestion/question.



    I ask him why was he going about the build in the manner he had chosen, I left and returned with three P14s, in less than 30 minutes we were done. He decided he would build the P14 If he found one but the answer was no if someone ask him to build theirs.



    F. Guffey
     
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