Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by TomJ, Mar 24, 2019.
Appreciate the info on the recoil spring.
Q target w/ training rounds.
Per their supervisor it was causing the gun to be just slightly out of battery. I didn’t notice it being out of battery but he said it wouldn’t be visibly noticable.
Sig 365 being even smaller, 2500 rounds sounds about right?
Sig designers should have figured this out already?
I keep a round count on my guns. When a recoil spring is ending it's life cycle the slide will fail to return to battery.
This happened with a CW380 to me. The recoil spring had gotten so weak that it couldn’t hold the slide in battery and I would get light strikes. Happened at about the 900 round mark as best I can figure. I could slightly push the slide back, perhaps an 1/8 of an inch and it would just stay there. When shooting sometimes it just didn’t have enough tension to return all the way to battery.
On my cw380 you could definitely pull the trigger with it slightly out of battery. We are talking a very small amount though. And it would fire sometimes, and others light strike.
A gun that will fire out of battery is a very good way to be injured. Not to mention the damage to the gun.
Ouch, now that's worn out for sure, thanks. I guess I have never let any of mine get that bad, but the P-365 is my first (Owned long term) sub compact auto, and they are definitely more critical, something to keep a close eye on, thanks.
No doubt, but I am guessing here that the gun is in battery enough to be safe, just a hair from being fully in and enough to cause a light strike, which is a very small distance. Interesting thought though for sure.
That’s what I understood, but mine failed after 2000 rounds. As I mentioned I’m changing mine after 1500 rounds as I carry it and don’t want to risk a failure if I’m in the unfortunate situation of needing it in a defensive situation.
2500 sounds about right for the 365. Little guns are engineering marvels, and thus they tend to be picky beasts when the are even a little out of spec.
My Kahr cw380 will do the same thing.
That is almost always a bad idea...what you're doing is now battering the gun as the slide returns into battery.
The smaller that slide travel is on a gun the more often you'll need to change recoil springs. You won't get a "standard" answer/number because it varies with the platform.
A good rule of thumb with a Service sized pistol is 5000 rounds, as they get shorter the number of rounds between changes gets smaller. The shortest I've ever heard of for a delayed blowback 9mm was the Wilson Combat ADP and the Detonics Pocket-9 at 500 rounds
Nothing. I would not want to own semi-auto in which pin fell on primer when the gun was slightly out of battery.
If I owned small carry gun I would use it for carry and buy larger one for range use. In this case it would be 365-320 Compact. In case of Glock it would be G43-G26 or G19 combo.
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