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PA, WV, or OH?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Ironclad, Feb 22, 2013.

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  1. Ironclad

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    I will more than likely moving close to the West Virgina Northern panhandle in the near future. This gives me the interesting opportunity to choose between living in Pennsylvania, Ohio, or West Virgina.

    Which of these states has the best gun laws? And when I say the best, I obviously mean the least restrictive.
     
  2. daiadvisor

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    Ohio's been good to me all these years - can have pretty much whatever, CCW is easy to get. Only issue is 30 Rd. mag restriction. (Not that it's ever been enforced)
     
  3. Uncle Richard

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    WV is a very gun friendly state. Simple process to get your concealed carry permit and can carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Can purchase a firearm without a NICS check if you have a ccw permit......just a few high points..

    We have a lot of jobs in the norther half of the state. Look at Morgantown.


    However, I did live in Ohio for a short period. State income tax was less and I didn't have to get my vehicle inspected every year....but that was 6 years ago.
     
  4. sean326

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    Pa is the best, easy CCP, shall issue, everything is legal from full auto to mortors, even switchblades.
     
  5. dragon813gt

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    It depends on where you live. While it is shall issue there are counties that make you jump through hoops and wait to get the permit. Same goes for NFA items. If you don't have a trust you won't be able to acquire any of them.

    PA is split into Pittsburgh/Center/Philadelphia. The closer you live to either end the more liberal it gets. And unfortunately this is where the majority of people live so they run the state. Even though land mass wise it's the minority. Senator Casey has made it known that he's a traitor and will support and all future firearms restrictions. I love living here but some of the elected officials are problems right now.


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  6. Fleetman

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    We live in Pa.....seem to tolerate firearms ok but as posted, the politicians are a little scary right now...almost seems like they want to emulate Md or NJ.

    FWIW, it only took two days to get our LTCF permits (License to Carry Firearms).
     
  7. Pilot

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    PA state law trumps any liberal, anti-gun rhetoric coming from Philly or Pittsburgh. With my CCW permit I can carry anywhere in the state including Philly and Pitt. Our PA Constitution mandates that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED. Yes, the language is stronger than the U.S. 2A.

    Like others have said PA is very gun friendly. Shall issue, no AWB, NFA is legal, and good knife laws, although while you may own an automatically opening knife, you can NOT legally carry one.
     
  8. Sam1911

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    PA appears to me to be the least restrictive of the three, but WV is very good, and OH isn't bad. Good choice to get to make!
     
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    That`s to ambiguous for me. Where exactly?
     
  10. Baldman

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    Lived in PA all my life. In a lot of cases PA is 3 states, you've got Philly which is liberal / democratic and very anti gun (I've lived and worked in / near Philly for 25 yrs), Pittsburgh which from the times that I have been there(and it's been a little while) was more gun friendly than Philly, then you have the rest of the state that looks like a "T" is Alabama. I don't say that with any disrespect since I grew up in NE PA and lived there for 25 yrs , this area has been more pro gun / pro hunting / pro gov't keep you hands off my crap than the rest of the state. If you choose PA pick a location near Pitt or Alabama. Philly has become a stinking hole of violence and corruption that the mayor, city council, et al have no real interest in cleaning, just filling their pockets. IMO things like this tend to happen with 1 party rule.

    BTW the only major restriction I am aware of is no semi-auto for hunting (at least deer & small game).
     
  11. josiewales

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    I live in PA and out of the three states Pa seems to be the best. If it weren't for Philly and Pittsburg we would be a red state. Not very restrictive gun laws. Our state rep, Rob Kauffman, Is working with another state rep, Gordan Denlinger, to introduce a bill that allow you to carry with out a CCP. Also they are working on legislation that would nullify federal gun laws during or after 2013, like WY did.
     
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    I grew up in Ohio 5 mins from PA, and 25 mins from WV. All three have their quirks, a few dumb laws here and there. But nothing that I would consider leaving or moving to another for.
     
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    I, have lived in the tri-state area my whole life, and as mentioned each has a few querks. The problem with Ohio is the three blue city's that can throw an election in a negative direction.
     
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    Ohio has a 30rd mag ban? Maybe some cities still have bans on the books that aren't enforced but they aren't banned statewide. Our laws are pretty good now. NFA is ok, CHL is easy to get, no AWB issues. As others have noted the major cities are pretty anti-gun and are why we are such a swing state. 5 cities reliably vote Dem and the rest of the state sways the other way.
     
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    ohio is a must inform state if you are traffic stopped. Pa does not require it. Big for me..
     
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    A nice choice of states to pick from.Cant speak for the other two states but for the most part Ohio seems pretty decent for me.Our govenor is pro-gun rights and that makes me alittle less uneasy with the obamacution of our 2nd ammendment rights currently going on in our great country.
     
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    Of the three states mentioned PA If you want to be adjacent to the Northern Panhandle of WVA then it would be the counties of Beaver, Washington, and Green.
     
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    I would decide based on the hunting and fishing opportunities available in each of the three states. In which case, I think the nod goes to PA.
     
  19. pockets

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    It's buried, but Ohio does ban the USE OF magazines over 30 rounds (center-fire). You can 'OWN' them, you just can't USE them in a firearm.
    Yes...I know this is mostly ignored and not enforced much....but it is there:
    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.11
    NOTE: Parts of this code will change 3/27/13...Section E will not change.

    Ohio Revised Code 2923.11(E):
    (E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger.
    “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading,
    other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.


    That basically means; as soon as you INSERT a 40-round magazine into a center-fire semi-auto, you have 'specially adapted' it. Doesn't affect .22's.
    I don't write the laws, I just try to keep current on them.
    Overall though, Ohio has been making gun law improvements since 2004. It's important to keep track of them.

    As for the original question? The thing I dislike about PA is that they do not recognize the Ohio CHL as valid. Legally I must disarm when I visit my son in Pittsburgh. WV and Ohio seem to be in synch.....PA, not so much.
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    Nope, no mag ban.
     
  21. gp911

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    Ok pockets, I remember that one now. I heard about it when a friend bought a Thompson with a drum magazine years ago and the subject came up. I'd forgotten all about that dumb little statute. Our gun laws are continuing to improve, but there is definitely still work to do.
     
  22. Sam1911

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    Also, PA's list of "off-limits" places is one of the shortest in the nation.

    A big one for me is that you don't have to leave your gun in your car if you go into a restaurant or bar. Even if you're having a beer or three. That's really nice.

    LOL! Only because OH doesn't recognize PA! PA doesn't have a training requirement and that seems to bug OH.

    Getting your UT permit takes care of this problem (and DE, as well).
     
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    I really can't say whether PA is better than Ohio or West Virginia.I live less than 1500 feet from NJ. I must be VERY careful to disarm whenever I cross the bridge into the "People's Republic of NJ. I have lived in this tiny town my whole life except when I was on active duty in the US Army. I worked in NJ for about half of my working life and going into NJ 5 or 6 times per week made me very aware of the difference in gun laws. I didn't get a CCW permit until I was retired because I always feared I would forget myself and get caught.This very thing happened to a close friend. IMO all 3 states are good.
     
  24. pockets

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    Yup. It's not as though the 12 hours of 'training' (essentially NRA Basic Pistol) we do in Ohio is earth-shattering.
    I wonder which state didn't recognize the other first? Kind of silly really.
    At least Ohio dropped the re-certification requirement now for CHL renewal....we continue to make progress. :)

    All three states have their own quirks and their own good points.
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  25. josephbw

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    I think the intent of reciprocity was to honor any state license that matched or exceeded the requirements for the Ohio CCW.
     
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