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Paintball gun pepper spray

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by RancidSumo, May 22, 2007.

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  1. RancidSumo

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    have you guys seen those plastic balls that are shot out of paintball guns and are filled with pepperspray and other stuff? I think that they should make them available to civilians. What do you think? Does anyone have experience with them?
     
  2. Pax Jordana

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    Yeah

    DOG the bounty hunter has a few! I think they're pretty boss.

    Though I'm not entirely sure how effective they are - to avoid putting out an eye, you fire at the torso - but the stuff doesn't work well on your torso (at least, no better than regular paintballs)... And then, at in-house distances you might as well have a $10 can of spray - the advantage of distance is negligible until you get out to, say, riot suppression scaled engagements.


    This might be more viable for someone already into paintball. Me, I'd prefer something guaranteed to stop. For the cost of your pimped out x-games m4 wannabe, you can own a Mossberg Persuader (and that's list, new) and save yourself a lot of the worry when the rubber meets the road.

    But boy, they'd be fun to mess with :)
     
  3. CWL

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    Pepperballs.
    http://www.pepperball.com

    Not available for civilian use, but you can put yourself on their mailing list in case they do. I wouldn't.

    As in the case of all less-lethal solutions, they should be applied with back-up in case it does not work. This means that you should have one or more people behind you armed with real guns, like LEOs do in the real world.

    I see no purpose in civilian use for these since I would rather have a real firearm in any situation where I needed to haul a paintball gun around with me.
     
  4. mrmeval

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    When police shot a woman in the face with one. It hit her in the eye. The impact did enough damage to kill her.
     
  5. Pax Jordana

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    MRM- cite that for us? thanks.
     
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    ^^ sad story, she's in a better place now.
     
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    I can't see it for self defense. Using a bulky paintball gun to launch pepper gas balls at a perp is less useful that using a pepper spray unless it's at a distance farther than spray reaches. If it is, then it's time to remove yourself from the area, at least till you can reach a real firearm.
     
  9. Joe Demko

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    I fired one at a sheriff's convention a couple years ago. If conditions are right, when the balls hit the target's torso you get, in effect, a cloud of pepper powder (not gas) surrounding the entire upper body. The stuff is very finely divided; it makes talc look like construction grade sand. It has some very useful applications, but I don't think self-defense is one of them.
     
  10. Chuckulator

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    It wasn't pepperballs that killed that woman. It was a truly wicked version (from Europe?) with a heavy load of bismuth in the front, I believe.
     
  11. fletcher

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    Are you serious? Sounds like a BAD purchasing decision to me.
     
  12. Joe Demko

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    She was shot with an FN 303. I can't link to an image of the ammo from work, but it does contain powdered bismuth as part of its design.
     
  13. mdao

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    The FN 303 isn't really a pepperball launcher. It's much closer to a beanbag launching shotgun with the added benefit of chemical payloads.
     
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    Why was she shot in the face? What happened to aiming at the body?
     
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    What happened

    IIRC I was in New Hampshire when this happened. The police were using these for crowd control after the Red Sox won. She was in the crowd. It was not an intentional "SHOOT HER IN THE FACE." I believe that the police were popping them up into the crowd. At least that was what was reported in the news.
     
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    The officer that killed Victoria Snelgrove testified that he was aiming at another rioter. Really, things that are as funky shaped and slow moving as the FN 303 projectiles are really hard to stabilize, and accuracy suffers as a result.
     
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    A few Million was paid to her family by Boston PD and they helped the family with the suit against FN.

    The officer in charge retired as he ordered the shooting without any training in the firearm. The girl hurt was NOT a rioter only a citizen who had been to a ball game and was standing by a vendor cart hoping to get a sausage sandwich.

    Incompetence always cost the taxpayers money. To bad he did not loose his pension. That would have taught the new regime the true penalty for screwing up.

    Now pepper balls are great for training for real with paintball guns!
     
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    I think it would be ridiculous to have these available to civilians. Just think of all of the young boys who would be shooting them. It's bad enough with just regular paintballs.
     
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    You could make your own. No I’m serious you could buy a paintball mold and ingredients to make the shell then fill it with ordinary pepper spray as apposed to paintball paint. Never tried it myself but I am sure it’s possible. Or if you lazy like me just get paintballs and pepper spray and suck out paint with a syringe then inject pepper spray. Just use it in any ordinary paintball gun.
     
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    I feel the same way about real guns.:rolleyes:

    I am sorry but just because someone may misuse something is not a valid reason for making it illegal for non-LEOs to own.
     
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    Regulation speed for paintballs at a paintball field is 300 fps. This si because direct hits to the head at high velocities results in possible blackout and brain damage. I have been hit in the head multiple times in one game on several different occasions (forehead, harder than the rest of the skull) and I have felt light headed. I suppose that explains a bit about me :p but anyway I think that police would follow the same safety precautions when using these. And if you had one for HD it would be possible to get a Tippmann Pro Carbine (usually what SWAT and police use) and add a response trigger mod which allows for rapid fire. If you were looking at a concealed carry a PGP pump pistol is small enough but there is somthing made by Tac that is a paint pistol with an integrated 12 gram CO2 cartridge in a clip that holds 8 paintballs I believe.
     
  23. RancidSumo

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    I dont want them for self defense, I just think that they are cool and would be fun to mess around with.
     
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    True enough. There have been several people killed/disabled by paintballs, and pepper balls. Some foolish people used to freeze them years back. Talk about dangerous.
     
  25. RancidSumo

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    Or even worse, shoot marbles out of them. I heard some kids around here were doing that awhile back. If they shot me with one I would probably have to throw them off Mansface
     
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