Palmetto State Armory AKs

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  1. Balrog

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    How are PSA AK's in terms of build quality, reliability, and accuracy?

    How would a PSA AK compare to a Zastava ZPAP M70?
     
  2. HPJeep

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    Their earlier versions weren't too great. Look for their GF3 versions which are good because of the forged parts instead of cast parts.
     
  3. Bcwitt

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    Not a match for a Zastava.
     
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  4. Balrog

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    In what way are the Zastava's better? I have not handled either.
     
  5. somethingbenign

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    I was just thinking of asking the same thing. A decent introductory AK would be nice and the PSAs do seem reliabily available.
     
  6. Bcwitt

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    For one thing, Zastava uses the heavier RPK reciever (1.6MM), not the more common AKM (1.0 mm). Is much more solid. Zastava uses real militery production facility, not a commecial copycat made in a retail space. Real Militery grade rifles are a far cry from commecial knockoffs. There is just no way to match the manufacturing quality & have room to profit. Especially in this country.
     
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  7. Bcwitt

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    Zastava is actually one of the best in the world.
     
  8. Ignition Override

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    Balrog: My Zastava ZPAP has seen over 1,500 rds. with not a hint of an issue. It was manufactured around mid-2020. And as for comfort, Zero cheek slap, zero trigger slap or any other complaints. Rock solid.

    The magazines are my Hungarian Tankers; that's all I've ever used in my imported AKMs. "If it ain't broken (the mags also--perfect functions), don't fix it".

    My shooting club buddy is a Fedex jet mechanic.
    He had to make two mechanical alterations to make his PSA AKM function reliably.

    I prefer to pay more money for gun brands which very seldom have any issue (if any). More peace of mind, no aggravation and disappointment.
     
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  9. JeeperCreeper

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    Anecdotal, but Zastavas are fantastic. Heavy, but fantastic.

    Not really anything other than trash talk, but how many times do you see people asking about "are PSA AKs good" vs how many are about Zpaps?

    One is a known quantity (Zastava).

    Honestly, both will probably be great (in most current generation)
     
  10. nick22

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    The only gripe I have about my blemished GF4 is it's a little sticky with steel magazines I have plenty of Pmags for it so it doesn't bother me. It's been a reliable rifle that shoots better than I can offhand.
     
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  11. sarduy

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    Personally I would go with the Kalashnikov-USA KR-103 as my first choice then a Zastava. Palmetto are ok, a friend of mine has one and it works.


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  13. brunowbe

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    ^^^LOL at above guy!

    Rule #1 for AK buying: Never buy American made when a quality import is available.

    The Zastava and even a WASR are superior to KUSA. Both are proven rifles made by military factories with decades of AK building experience. The other one is a commercial facility with no real long term track record.

    If you’re only going to put a few hundred rounds down range, even a Century built turd is likely to be fine.
     
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  14. Skinny Pete

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    Get the Zastava... don't even waste time thinking about it, buy it
     
  15. Bcwitt

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    If you built Zastava quality into a commercial version & had to maufacture it @ a USA excange rate, you might have a unit cost over 3 or 4 thousand. When all things are on an apples to apples basis, an Quality AR is much cheaper. Cheap AKs in this country were all made of used surplus parts, manufactured decades ago & bought for scrap metal prices. You simply are not going to be able to do that anymore.
     
  16. Skinny Pete

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    False
     
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  17. sarduy

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    you do know that KUSA are the same people that were importing the SAIGAS until Obama ban them. And since they couldn’t imported it they decided to build them here in the usa with the “Data pak” from Russia… with a manufacturing facility paid for by “russian investor that just so happens to be investors in the “Kalashnikov concern”. Look at RWC Group

    Show me a 1 to 1 rifle closer to the original AK-103 or their 9mm ak in production today other than KUSAs

    some good read
    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/22/firm-set-to-manufacture-russian-ak47-kalashnikov-rifles-in-us.htm

    https://www.floridabulldog.org/tag/rwc-group-llc/
     
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  18. Ugly Sauce

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    Check out "AK Operators Union" videos on youtube. Robski has torture test videos on all the AK's mentioned. I think he runs about 5,000 rounds through each rifle tested.
     
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    I do know that is the “story”, but everything is unverifiable. Where did the “data pak” come from? Rumor has it it came from India or another country, but it didn’t come from Russia, if KUSA even has it. Had it been a Russian investor with ties to Kalashnikov Concern it would have been sunk due to sanctions. There is and has never been a connection between Kalashnikov Concern and KUSA. A simple google search clears that myth up quickly.

    I d hope KUSAs rifles hold up in the long run and turn into a viable option for the US market. I still stand by the statement that as long as imports are available, a person should go that route over an American made AK.
     
  20. MarshallDodge

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    I have a friend who has a PSA AK, bought it about 5 years ago, and has a couple thousand rounds through it. He said that he hasn't had any problems.

    My other friend is a bit of an AK snob. He likes PSA ARs but puts their AK at the bottom of the list. The good part about PSA is that they take good care of their customers if you have any issues.
     
  21. Bcwitt

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    Can you clarify what is false? To the best of my knowledge, that is true.
     
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