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Paul Barrett’s: Glock, The Rise of America’s Gun

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  1. Cheytac

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    I have had the privilege to have read a Galley copy of Mr. Barrett’s book, Glock, The Rise of America’s Gun. It was a most enjoyable read and quite different than what I expected. When I first heard about it and then learning that Mr. Barrett is a Managing Editor of Bloomberg Businessweek, I assumed that it would be anti-2nd Amendment. I even read a review which expressed my concerns also.

    However, as we all know what assuming actually means… I will know say, after reading the book, that my assumption was incorrect. Mr. Barrett’s book isn’t Anti-2nd Amendment. It really doesn’t go either way; for or against. With the depth of his research I feel that he may actually be Pro-2nd Amendment.

    There are a few items that I was disappointed with, but what book have we read that we totally agreed with? Towards the end of the book, Mr. Barrett starts to lean towards restricting magazine capacity. Often through-out the book he mentions “high capacity” as an evil thing. He also believes that the gun owners of America would agree with a lower magazine capacity.

    He did point out that the Glock wasn’t the first polymer handgun and he did point out a couple of times that other handguns held more than a Glock. After that, Glocks were the guns that held the “most” rounds.

    In regards to the Luby’s Cafeteria massacre in Killeen, Texas he mentions the Glock that was used and extra magazines for it. However, he failed to mention the Ruger P89 that was also used. In the Northern Illinois University massacre, he failed to mention that the shooting started with a shotgun which was reloaded at least once and other firearms the killer had. The Glock dominated this shooting in the book.

    I was pleased to see that he mentioned Mrs. Hupp, who was at Luby’s with her parents, and her pro-gun and pro-carry views. It is unfortunate, as he mentioned that this one day, she left her revolver in her vehicle. She may have been able to save many people, including her parents.

    Also interesting was how he pointed out how so many LEOs are not gun enthusiast, do not train regularly with firearms, and view them merely as another tool on their belt. Yet, so many LEOs feel that citizens shouldn’t be able to carry guns. Yet many civilians train more than the average LEO.

    Then the book gets to the meat of the subject matter, Gaston Glock and his handgun. While I may own four Glocks and have read a little about Glock, this was a very interesting book. There is so much more to the handgun, Mr. Glock, and the Glock business that I didn’t know.

    I would encourage anyone that owns a Glock, is thinking about buying a Glock, or anyone who has firearms to get the book and read it. I doubt you will be disappointed and you will not be put-off by any Anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. It is truly a look at the move from revolvers to semi-automatic handguns and more specifically the history of Glock, the life of Gaston Glock, and a look into his empire.

    Cheytac

    PS His book is how I found this place, so I thought that I should post my review here as well.
     
  2. TexasRifleman

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    Just to clarify:

    It was illegal for her to take it into the restaurant, it's not like she left it in the car just that one time, she left it in the car all the time. In fact it was illegal then for her to even have it in the car most of the time back then.
     
  3. Fishslayer

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    "America's Gun."

    Sure, whatever...
     
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    How, exactly, is a firearm designed and built in Austria "America's Gun"?
     
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    Redacted.
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  6. parsimonious_instead

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    It may seem silly to call it "America's Gun" but Mr. Barrett is a good writer, and writers choose their words pretty carefully.
    Remember - he's a business journalist with an interest in firearms and the firearm industry, not a gun writer.
    His book is first and foremost a story of a hypersuccessful business, and the man who started it.
    It's quite common to hear of meteoric business success here in the States, and rather rare in Europe.
    Although Glock benefitted from fulfilling the sidearm needs of the Austrian and other European armies, as a company it achieved the "next level" when he started selling in volumes to US police departments and then to non-LEO American customers.
    The Glock might not be a "native American" firearm like the revolver or 1911, but millions have been sold here in the States.
    In the pages of Barrett's book, he details how Glock's sales team exhibited American-style innovation in both the manufacturing and marketing of the weapon. Suddenly, the traditional, iconic American gun makers were Old School, and the European was the scrappy upstart. This inversion gives the title some additional cheeky irony.
    Glocks have captured a huge market share among gun enthusiasts, as well as becoming a pop cultural symbol. Even as most street thugs are found with .38 snubbies, .25 Ravens and the like, Glocks became the predominant weapon mentioned in rap lyrics.
    They're featured endlessly in American cop shows and action films.
    Barrett even makes the point that in most places that visually depict "no firearms allowed" the silhouetted firearm usually looks like a Glock.
     
  7. robinkevin

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    I agree with others calling it "America's gun" when it isn't design nor build in the USA is almost a slap in the face if you ask me. Kinda like calling Toyota "America's car company" just because they sell a lot in the US, but even they have plants here.

    Bottom line the Colt 1911, or Colt Single Action would be much more deserving of such title.

    EDIT: Just for the record I drive a Toyota Tundra...
     
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    Yeah, but in a way Toyota *IS* America's car company. America's market made that brand a world leader, and it became something of a legend here for efficiency, economy and reliability. The Glocks came to prominence along side the rise of shall issue laws and have sold incredibly well here. Like Toyota cars they challenged the "big three" handgun makers--Colt, S&W and Ruger. And there's no denying Americans love them, and buy them.
     
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    The book is pretty good. I'd say that he's neutral, but he seems to be a bit in favor of 2A, so he's a bit on the pro-gun side. Remember, he also has to deal with publishers and appease his bosses. When you are a high visibility writer, you can't go around publishing all your views uncensored. I definitely really like how he said that most citizen shooters are better trained than most cops. Most of the police officers I have surveyed do not have guns at home other than duty weapons and they don't go out to shoot for fun. At least the cops who do like guns are really good shots.
     
  10. Paul Barrett

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    Author of GLOCK: The Rise of America's Gun responds

    First, thanks for the interest in my book. Much appreciated.

    No need for devotees of the venerable 1911 to take offense at my subtitle. I have great respect for the 1911's historic role. "The Rise of America's Gun" indicates that Glock became the iconic handgun of the late 20th century when Americans (cops, civilians, movie directors) adopted the Austrian pistol as their own. I chose the words carefully. I did not call it an "American Gun." On many levels, the Glock became America's Gun.

    To those who have posted positive reactions to the uncorrected galley proof, my thanks! The final version of the book will be released Jan 10, 2012 (with typos fixed). You can preorder a copy right now, at a fat discount, from Amazon.com. I'd appreciate pre-orders, because they signal demand, and that signal ripples back through Amazon to my publisher, Crown. The more early demand, the more likely Crown will do a second printing more quickly.

    If you are a serious blogger or freqent poster to firearm websites (or any websites, for that matter), I can arrange for you to gain online access to the galley. To make that arrangement with Crown, I will need a personal email. Send to me at pmb32861@yahoo.com. You have to commit to writing a review and getting it around. This isn't supposed to be a way to score a freebie.:)

    Thanks and all the best,
    Paul Barrett
    www.glockthebook.com
     
  11. Cosmoline

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    Thanks for posting and welcome to THR!

    FYI Barnes and Nobel doesn't have them in yet, the clerk said they had been pushed back a month? Not sure if that's supposed to be happening.
     
  12. Paul Barrett

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    GLOCK book update

    Glock: The Rise of America's Gun is out officially on Jan 10, 2012. It has not been pushed back. Thank you for asking about it. If you're thinking of getting the book, and I hope you are, I suggest pre-ordering at Amazon.com, where you can currently get a huge discount and have it delivered on Jan 10. Thanks again for your interest. -- Paul Barrett
     
  13. Cheytac

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    The title isn't a slam against America or any American firearms manufacturer. It is simply a story of how the Glock became so popular in America and how Glock overtook many firearms manufacturers here is America. Upon reading teh book, you will understand the title.


    Texas, I saw her interview and I truly believe that she would rather have faced the consequences for carrying her revolver than the loss that she suffered. My wording is from her mouth, not mine.
     
  14. Paul Barrett

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    The Packing Rat's review of GLOCK book

    I'm pleased to share this review of GLOCK: The Rise of America's Gun, written by Derek (aka The Packing Rat), who knows guns and grub. Nice guy, too. Derek was kind enough to collect up a bunch of other gun blog posts at the end of his review...

    http://thepackingrat.net/2011/11/05/glock-the-rise-of-americas-gun/

    All the best,
    Paul Barrett
    @GlockTheBook
     
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    Me too...built in Princeton, Indiana.
     
  17. parsimonious_instead

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    My brand new Hyundai... built in Alabama. (To keep it firearm related, it's the car I use to take my guns to the range) :)
     
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    Thanks for posting and welcome to the forum!

    I'm gonna go ahead and...ummm... disagree... on the America's gun thing. At least for me.

    OTOH hand, this has been going around the internet for quite awhile. Essentially a statement regarding the ignorance of media types regarding guns in general. It's pretty accurate. So in a way, you're kinda right in as much as when anything bad happens, it's gonna be a Glock or an AK-47 that's the villain.:rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Paul Barrett

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    Everything is a Glock

    This spoof chart is, in fact, funny, and it does point accurately to the mainstream media's tendency to get confused about firearm issues. The chart also underscores what I'm writing about in GLOCK: The Rise of America's Gun. In this country, many, many people who know little or nothing about guns think "Glock" is the equivalent of "handgun." I think that's fascinating. How did it come to pass? That's one of the questions I answer in the book.
     
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    I've heard Glock has made 5 million and 4 million were sold in the US.True or not?
     
  21. parsimonious_instead

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    A couple of days ago Paul Barrett and his lovely wife Julie met up with me at my local range. The three of us ate an enjoyable lunch and then spent a couple of hours at the shooting club to which I belong. They both really enjoy shooting and in fact Julie is the better of the two with a rifle - she really enjoyed my Ruger 10/22, and Paul got a kick out of my Marlin 1894c in .357/.38 Special.
     
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    Glock sales, and out visit to the range with Parsimonious

    Re proportion of Glock sales: As a privately held company, Glock has never had to disclose figures on total sales. Based on my industry interviews and import figures compiled by the USG (which are by country, not brand), the 5 million figure is roughly accurate. I have been told by former Glock execs that 90% of sales are in the US -- that's in terms of dollars. So...you're in the ballpark.

    Re our chew -n- shoot with Parsimonious, I have to confess that his description is entirely accurate. We enjoyed a lovely fall day upstate, and my lovely and talented wife is a far better shooter than I. Facts are facts.

    Paul
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  23. RatherNotSay

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    I'm a glock guy and even I don't get the title "America's Gun"
     
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    Well apparently ninety percent of the sales are in the US. Thus the use of the possessive, I assume. Don't confuse "America's Gun" with "American Gun"
     
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    The United States embraced the Glock, turning an obscure Austrian pistol into "America's Gun." Today, when many Americans (mostly non-gun people) want to refer to a semiauto pistol, they say, "Glock." When movie and television directors put a gun in a cop's hand, it's usually a Glock. When a crime novelist wants to refer to a handgun in a sophisticated way, they refer to a "Glock." Look at the American handgun market in 1985 (dominated by revolvers and 1911s); look at that market today (dominated by Glocks and Glock-like models). That begins to explain the subtitle. Thanks for your interest! Hope you get the book, since you're a "Glock guy," and I can't imagine readers who would enjoy it more than Glock guys (and gals). All the best, Paul Barrett @GlockTheBook
     
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