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Pedersoli Howdah: To buy, or not to buy?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Packman, Jan 30, 2013.

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  1. Jaymo

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    It'll provide you with entertainment, all right. It's loads of fun to shoot.
    It's the closest I can get to a Mad Max scattergun, without the huge monetary investment and .gov paperwork.
    My buddy's roommate took one look at it, gave a disapproving scowl, and asked me, "What do you need THAT for?"
    My reply to him was "I didn't buy it because I needed it. I bought it because I wanted it and it's my right."
    That's when he walked away.
    I guess the antis don't know what to do when we refuse to let them put us on the defensive.
     
  2. Packman

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    Pics!

    I'm sorry about the quality, all I had handy was my phone.

    Overall impressions: The fit and function are very good. The right trigger and lock are both pretty decent, although a little stiffer than I would prefer. I can deal with it though. The left trigger and lock is pretty tight. It's just an estimate from my Mark One trigger finger, but I'd guess the trigger pull on the left is in excess of 25 lbs, and that's the rear trigger, which is much easier to bear down on. I expect I'll need to do a little bit of polishing and maybe a little bit of filing after some more research to make sure I'm not going to mess anything up.

    The metal to wood fit is excellent, all the way around. I'm very impressed with this aspect. The wood itself is unremarkable in all regards. The checkering on the handgrip is shallow, with one obvious run line. I'm a little bummed about how soft the wood is. Very easy to dent, especially since removing the pin to get the barrel off requires some sort of tool. The easiest thing is a brass punch and a rubber mallet. The engraving on the locks is neat, but not super well executed. Shallow and largely oxidized over. With that said, the quality is acceptable, and it has an antiqued look to it, which appeals to me.

    The bluing on the barrels is of pretty decent quality, definitely superior to my Pietta revolvers. I don't have much blued stuff, but it looks to be equal to what's on my Marlin .22 Now, although the bluing is of decent quality, I'm not a huge fan of the look. I'd like to case harden the barrels, because I really like that look. I'll need to do some more research into what's involved there. I've seen it on THR before, just need to revisit that. Alternatively, I'm considering antiquing the barrels, since that look also appeals to me. That would also remove the issue of the caps removing the bluing. If the barrels do get antiqued, I could care less about dings in the wood, as that just adds to the character of the gun.

    As you can see in the pics, I've removed the attached loading rod. I don't care much for how it looks, and on the range it's just as easy to use a different ramrod. The gun has a much more streamlined look without it in my opinion. I'll need to figure out something to do with the screwholes. I don't want to completely incapacitate them, so I'm thinking maybe some sort of setscrew? Or just get a screw and cut it short so it'll sit flush.

    Overall impression: I like it. I'm not dissatisfied with the purchase, although I haven't shot it. You've all probably seen my sister thread discussing ammunition sources, sizes and options. I hope to go make some smoke real soon!
     

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  3. MattShlock

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    That wood-to-metal fit is astounding.

    BTW, I bought my 9-shot-plus-one-shotgun-blast cavalry LeMat for much the same reason as you bought your howdah. Actually, it's as much a piece of art to me as anything else...
     

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  4. Packman

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    Matt, I've been coveting the Lemat ever since I started shooting BP a few years ago. I want one very badly, I just haven't been able to talk myself into the cost yet. Hopefully I'll be starting a new job soon, which would involve a comfortable pay raise in about 2-3 years, so my budget for boomsticks and smokepoles would increase dramatically.

    Would you be so kind as to post a range report when you get around to shooting it?
     
  5. EljaySL

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    I'm sure once you shoot it that you'll love it entirely. :)
     
  6. Ghost Dog

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    I've been away form the forum for a while but I picked up a 20X20 on GB last fall with a ball mold and some other accessories for about $500. and have been having a blast with it. I have'nt started casting yet so I've been loading it with OOO buck and #5 shot. An interesting note on top of 50 gr of Shockey's Gold the the OOO buckshot embeds itself in the 1/2" plywood I put my targets on, but on top of 50gr of 777 the OOO penetrates completely!
    I have also loaded it with shot on top of 25 gr of powder for my daughter and nephews to shoot. They also really enjoyed it.

    G D
     
  7. EljaySL

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    Got mine today. Mine has slightly nicer more attractive wood than yours (I think, just going from the picture) and I haven't measured it but the trigger pull seems entirely reasonable. One side is much louder then the other when I cock it, not sure what's up with that.
     
  8. Packman

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    I disassembled the locks and I can see why the one is stiff. I don't know all the terminology yet, so bear with me...

    The left side tumbler, where the trigger interfaces and locks in to prevent firing has a little bit of a burr on it. This is making the trigger spur/arm/lever thingy catch on the round tumbler doodad, requiring heavier pressure to overcome the friction and release the hammer. The right side lock doesn't have that burr, so it moves pretty smoothly.

    I don't plan on doing anything to it until I shoot it.
     
  9. EljaySL

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    Heh. I get the idea anyway. Depending on the details it may smooth out if you cock and decock it enough, but it should be easy enough to fix in any case.

    I'll be interested to hear how you like it. I'll post when I shoot mine but it might be a little while.
     
  10. loose noose

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    Packman, looks like a really nice piece of armory. What is that thing on the bottom of the butt it looks like some kind of plastic. Also the wood to metal fit is really nice BTW.
     
  11. EljaySL

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    The thing on the bottom appears to be that color hardened steel. It's an attachment point for the optional stock. There's a screw holding it on. You could remove it if you find it unattractive but I'm not sure what's under it.
     
  12. Packman

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    Late reply, sorry.

    Loosenoose, my googling says it served as a counterweight to improve the balance of the gun, an endcap to protect the grip, and a last-ditch impact weapon. I can believe all aspects in a historical context. This particular one doesn't seem to have a whole lot of weight behind it, so I don't know how much balancing it really does. It's got some mighty pointy edges on it, and I would be righteously brained if I got hit with it, to be sure. It'd stop someone cold in their tracks if you slapped them upside the noggin. It does a mighty fine job of protecting the grip from what I can tell.

    I haven't pulled it, but I think it just screws straight into the wood through the baseplate. I don't think you have to remove it to attach the shoulder stock, from what I understand there is a loop that actually wraps around that noggincruncher.
     
  13. EljaySL

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    Right - the "loop" is octagonal or something similar and probably holds on to the knob thing pretty well.
     
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    The eight pointed cap on the bottom of the grip is designed to crush the tigers skull as he is biting into your abdomen. Seriously, check the origin of the name Howda.

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  15. EljaySL

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    That's a nice theory and all, but if you do a search on historic howdah pistols they don't have anything at all like that. Maybe a little thicker area and a ring to hang it on the side of the howdah but that's about it.
     
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    Isn't "Howdah" the name for the big saddle arrangement on top of an elephant?
     
  17. EljaySL

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    It is. The idea that you have a couple of these in there so when you're going through the jungle and a tiger looks like it might want to eat you, you have options.
     
  18. Jaymo

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    Ghost Dog, did you buy that Howdah from that pawn/gun shop in Monroe GA?
    I followed that listing and almost bid on it. I would kind of like to have a second.
    I finally found a left handed holster for mine. It turns out that Triple K makes/sells one.
    I found it on their website.

    Saddle indeed. More like a gazebo on elephant back. :D
     
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