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Pellet pistol: Your opinions solicited - which of these and why?

Discussion in 'Air Guns' started by craftsman, Sep 13, 2013.

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  1. ChaoSS

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    Perhaps none of my business, but why can't you get a real gun? For the price of the P17, the UTG, and the shipping, you'd have a used gun. Maybe not the best one out there, but something. Or at least you'd be close.

    :edit: I love pellet guns, of course, I trying to figure out how to justify spending nearly a thousand dollars on an Airforce PCP set up. It'll be a while.

    But if I didn't have a home defense firearm, at the very least, I wouldn't have spent even the 40 bucks for the P17, or the 40 bucks for the daisy 880, or any other toys, until I had put that money toward something for home defense.
     
  2. rcmodel

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    No, no, no!

    You probably heard the one about Don't bring a knife to a gunfight??

    Well, Don't bring a air-pistol to a knife or burglar tool fight either!!


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  3. craftsman

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    A long, long time ago (we're talking nearly 37 years), it was mutually agreed upon - no firearms.

    Been very fortunate not to have had a need, or even the hint of a need during all that time, until recently - but that was about a half-mile straight line from here (although, when I was a kid - we had a break-in ... long story). Since air guns are not technically firearms - that was the loophole.
     
  4. ChaoSS

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    It's your marriage, of course, not mine, but I think thins like that should always be negotiable. Not like you are suddenly asking to bring in another woman or something.


    You have to remember, no one ever needs a gun, until the day they do, and then it's too late.
     
  5. Ohen Cepel

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    I have the Beeman as does my brother in law and father in law. All have been very happy with them and I would suggest that one.

    I also have the IZH and don't like it much at all. Rough with a real springer sound/feel to it when you shoot it. Been a while since I shot it but all around I was not happy with it so it went back into the box.

    That said, Pyramid is where I would buy the one you chose in the end. Get 4 tins of pellets while you're there (4th one free).
     
  6. Chevota

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    Curious if you rec'd it yet and how you like it? If you have any trouble with it, like leakage, heavy trigger pull, the safety etc, I may be able to help since I know the gun well and have modded and tuned mine. I'm sure others here have too so let us know.
    Also, the part I mentioned earlier about the seam damaging the O-ring, you need to look at it before you use the gun because it's not easy to find a new O-ring that size after you've damaged it. Maybe Beeman will ship a free one on request, who knows. Fyi...
     
  7. craftsman

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    I've had the Beeman P-17 for a while now, but its been frigid this winter (outdoor shooting setup, not enough room indoors at home) and way too snowy! LOL. (We're approaching the 3rd snowiest winter since they've kept records in this area). I know, excuses! I have shot a .177 cleaning pellet but no ammo as yet.
     
  8. Chevota

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    Lots of people shoot indoors, and I think the P17 is excellent for that. I print targets I made that don't suck expensive ink like most do, then I use a rolled up old bath towel to catch the pellets.
    If you have questions about tuning and a trigger job for it, I have info and pix. i can also send you my targets.
    So what did you think of it? I know I was surprised at how good it was for the $
     
  9. JSH1

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    There are air guns suitable for self defense. Case in point:
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    http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Dragon_Claw_Air_Rifle/2499/4994

    It shoots a .50 cal pellet at 679 fps for a muzzle energy of 230 ft/lbs. Also available in .357 and .45 caliber.
     
  10. ChaoSS

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    I would scarcely call a single shot weapon suitable for home defense unless there truly is no other option available. A crossbow might be a better weapon for self defense.
     
  11. craftsman

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    LOL! I have an 80 lb. pull pistol crossbow with home made 12 in. 5/16" diameter broadhead bolts. In any straight line shot in my home, it would penetrate through a human body. From 40 ft distance outside, the standard 6" bolt it comes with went through a high-density archery backstop, several layers (3 ") of cardboard and an inch through an aluminum privacy slat in a chain link fence.
     
  12. craftsman

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    I have a 0.22 cal. Benjamin Maurauder with a 10-shot magazine (actually, I have 3 magazines). That's rated at 1,000 FPS muzzle velocity. May not kill, but indoors, at that close of a range, at least it's gonna leave a mark. At night, with no flash and no loud sounds, I can get off all 10 shots in a few seconds.
     
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    To each his own. My primary home defense weapon is a single shot .410 I have a 12ga pump available but it is the little .410 that has a round in the chamber waiting.
     
  14. ChaoSS

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    To each his own is right, but I don't think you will find many here that think that decision is the best one to make under the circumstances.
     
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    I use the .410 because it is simple and reliable. My wife has problems with the 12 ga. Not only with the recoil but also operation. She always forgets about the slide release and often has difficulty racking the slide. The recoil means she has no interest in practicing with it.

    The .410 is ready to go. Just thumb the hammer and pull the trigger. She has no problem with the recoil and shoots it well.
     
  16. ChaoSS

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    Well, I don't know your situation, so it's not for me to say what you should or shouldn't do. I would just hate to hear that you or her needed to use it, and missed with the one shot you have.

    Pump action .410s or 20 gauge shotguns can be had rather inexpensively. In my house, there is one in the chamber. No need to remember anything about a slide release, just pull the trigger and pump it.

    A bit off topic, though, so I'll leave it be. I just hope you've fully considered the ramifications of using that gun as your home defense tool.
     
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    This has started to get silly. By the power of greyskull, this thread is closed.
     
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