Pellet rifle suggestion for squirrel control

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Probably best to trap them. The old guys in my in-laws neighborhood keep shooting out each others Windows.

For opossum and raccoon I considered a pellet gun until I realized the penalty for discharging was the same if I used a 30-06.

The neighbors are vegan Bernie supporters.

Discrete was a priority and I found that match loads from a Marlin lever was quieter and much more deadly than a pneumatic. Oh how I want to suppress a 22.
 
.177 can drop squirrels if shoot at right places, but .22 is more effective. I had a squirrel took a shot of .177, dropped from the tree and ran under my deck, took another 2 shots of .177s and finally died. At least I was able to get it out! I had another one took a shot of .177 and ran 20 fts before it died. Squirrel can be tough to kill.
 
I did a lot of squirreling with my early 1960s Sheridan Blue Streak 5mm; and same thing with an inexpensive Remmy .177. Both worked fine with the Sheridan a good lap ahead.
 
Kookla had it on page 1. If all you want to do is put squirrels in the ground, or in the pan, something like a 40 buck Daisy pumper will do it, with the added advantage of being kid friendly in case you have children who need to learn.
 
Pellet Rifle suggestion for squirrel control? Finally got around to downloading this out of my camera from squirrel season. Benjamin Trail 22 Cal. with Crosman Piranha Hollow points. IMG_1593.JPG Got this one at about 30 yards.
 
Folks, the squirrel gun issue was settled waaaaaay back!
Despite some of the suggestions, I was trying to keep the cost down, so no pneumatics.

Now methinks I should have just adopted a cat (no, I'm not a "cat" person).

Someone either dropped off or moved out of the neighborhood and left a cat - the gal next door has an indoor cat, and has a habit of leaving food on her patio for stray cats.

Unfortunately, I had pity on the darn thing and let it in on one of those recent 15 degree nights, and now it's mine!

Initially a cheap squirrel repellent, but the 2 vet bills were more than my 2 pellet rifles! :cuss:
 
My two favorites are a 25 cal nitro piston Benjamin with 29 grain pellets, or my old, old Stevens 22/410 with CCI Quiet 22s.
 
Folks, the squirrel gun issue was settled waaaaaay back!
Despite some of the suggestions, I was trying to keep the cost down, so no pneumatics.

Now methinks I should have just adopted a cat (no, I'm not a "cat" person).

Someone either dropped off or moved out of the neighborhood and left a cat - the gal next door has an indoor cat, and has a habit of leaving food on her patio for stray cats.

Unfortunately, I had pity on the darn thing and let it in on one of those recent 15 degree nights, and now it's mine!

Initially a cheap squirrel repellent, but the 2 vet bills were more than my 2 pellet rifles! :cuss:
Had a similar thing happen- someone abandoned a black Manx near our home and I ended up keeping him. Spent to have him fixed, spent for shots, etc. and he recently needed treatments for a blood-borne parasite- more spending. But I wouldn't trade him for any pellet gun- and I am not, or at least I wasn't until him, a 'cat person' either. He and our dog stay within about 20 yards of me when I walk the property with my airguns. Best squirrel spotters around!
 
Had a laugh the other day when the biggest tomcat in the hood was stalking the same squirrel I was watching. I was waiting for a nice front-on head shot, so as to drop him right there, it being mid-afternoon with a few neighbours out doing garden stuff and not wanting to raise a fuss with a 'death dance.' The squirrel jumped the fence again into the next yard and launched itself at the cat, freaking the tom right out. He cowered. This is about a 20 pound cat who kills birds all day and beats the daylights out of other cats. Squirrel terrified him. So much for hunting squirrels I guess. But of course we still have the odd butternut on the ground from last fall, so squirrel came back, grabbed a nut, and gave me my shot. From what I've seen, a handful of neighbourhood cats love the chase, but none has the balls to actually grab a squirrel.

Had a dog once in the 1980's who did manage to grab one, after years of chasing them. Stupid squirrel got caught off guard and dove into a dense bush made of lots of parallel twigs, a forsythia, so dog dove nose-first in after it and grabbed the squirrel around the middle. The squirrel went absolutely nuts in the dog's mouth, scratching from all directions. Poor dog bit down harder and looked at me, wondering what to do next. This is a dog who could stalk and catch ducks, and did so regularly. He'd sometimes come home after a couple of days with blood and feathers in his fur. But the squirrel was like a Tasmanian devil, the cartoon version, and poor dog was looking at me desperately hoping I'd know what to do. Thing was not dying. So I gave the dog a whack on the butt and he let go. Squirrel screamed at us for a moment then lit outta there. There were people around, and some of our neighbours fed peanuts to the squirrels back then... if it'd just been me and doggy that squirrel would have met my boot.
 
Why isn't this thread listed in Air Guns?

As to a good pellet rifle? I always liked the RWS and Diana guns and I also remember the Beeman guns being OK. Problem is do you want to buy a pellet rifle just for this single problem? Once the squirrels are eliminated be it a BB rifle, Pellet rifle, .22 LR using CB caps or similar do you plan to keep the rifle? A really good quality pellet rifle can carry a hefty price tag.

Ron
Lol, Beemans ok? Beemans have been a top shelf air rifle for decades. Beeman was a distributor for the HW Weilrauch air rifles and Pistols. Many years later a Chines company bought out the Distributorship and now you see some cheap Crosmans labeled Beeman. If you want a real top quality Beeman look for the "Rseries" or get a HW.
And for gosh sake DO NOT SHOOT SQUIRRELS WITH A BB GUN! The post above mentioned the Diana 34. That is a very great rifle in the direction to real quality air rifles and NOT the cheap Crossman China Crap!
 
Lol, Beemans ok? Beemans have been a top shelf air rifle for decades. Beeman was a distributor for the HW Weilrauch air rifles and Pistols. Many years later a Chines company bought out the Distributorship and now you see some cheap Crosmans labeled Beeman. If you want a real top quality Beeman look for the "Rseries" or get a HW.
And for gosh sake DO NOT SHOOT SQUIRRELS WITH A BB GUN! The post above mentioned the Diana 34. That is a very great rifle in the direction to real quality air rifles and NOT the cheap Crossman China Crap!
The thread runs back to 2016 and my prime suggestion was to move it to a better section. I never claimed to be a air gun guru of any sort, merely pointed out from limited experience with a few air guns what I liked. If Beemans are great then so be it but I would venture the original poster has done something by now.

Ron
 
The thread runs back to 2016 and my prime suggestion was to move it to a better section. I never claimed to be a air gun guru of any sort, merely pointed out from limited experience with a few air guns what I liked. If Beemans are great then so be it but I would venture the original poster has done something by now.

Ron
Got it, thanks for pointing this out, hope you have a better day.
 
Note on Co2 air rifles. I am new to this forum and did not post to all the threads. But I am a long time Air gun enthusiast. My take on Co2 seals. Each time you put in a cartridge you should put a drop of "Pellgun" oil on top of the cylinder. It will protect the seals for years. Co2 guns are loud, unless in invest in a shroud like the one's from TKO. FPS will vary especially on cool days. I personally am a Springer guy for rifles. Good Springers like the Walther LGV can have amazing accuracy. Every bit as good or better than a PCP at shorter yardages. PCP can get extremely expensive. Most will get very tired of a hand pump very quickly and move on to the air tanks. A lot of cash for valves, trips to dive shops etc for refills and on and on. Springer's are simplistic and honest. I would advise to stay away from Big Box Stores and the guns they sell. My personal opinion for a quality air Rifle entry level is the RWS Diana 34. Any German Made or English made air rifle are great choices and will last a life time, shoot better, have better triggers, tolerances, metal and on and on.
I would never shoot a squirrel with a light powered gun. They are tough little guys and it is easy to wound one. I save the light powered gun for rats and Grackles.(like my 2250 with shroud) or my Beeman R7. (Note, be careful when buying a rifle labeled Beeman, ONLY BUY THE "R" SERIES. They are true HW German made rifles. The rest are Chinese made Crosmans.
I hate to see under powered rifles shooting squirrels. I personally will not attempt to shoot one too far out, or with a gun less than 7 ft lbs. I prefer more. And a rifle that I know to be extremely accurate. Springers will last for years. If you later decide, you can send it to a Custom Tuner that can do wonders for your Rifle. New and even Better after market Springs seals etc. If you have a little bit of skill you can place a Vortek kit replacement. Here is a link. Notice the springs and seals of for many different air Rifles.

http://vortekproducts.com/ourstore/


Here is my Beeman R7, a gun that is notorious for Airgun enthusiast. Easy mild shooter, and just plain fun and accurate. It is equipped with a Vortek Kit and mounted with a Bug Buster scope. Beeman/Hw have the famous Rekord Trigger, one of the finest triggers made.

 
I've got a "squirrel problem" with my bird feeders - I've been pestering them with a CO2 BB pistol, but need something more accurate and apparently more lethal (the only way you're going to keep them from a food source).

Someone loaned me a Beeman R1 in .177 to try, but I can't hit a darn thing with it. They have a nice Leupold scope on it, but it's both slightly tilted and I have a terrible time with eye relief - can't go messing with their scope, but the only way I can get a good sight picture is to hold it off my shoulder. Doing so means accuracy suffers, and since I don't have it jammed into my shoulder, the recoil keeps me from seeing where the pellets are hitting so I can correct.

Anywho...
Anybody got some suggestions?
I'm currently considering the SIG MCX but can't quite pull the trigger.

CO2 powered would be nice for no muss, no fuss shots - a break barrel rifle is quite a production just for one shot, and my squirrels are currently so gun shy that It's difficult to crack a window in order to get a shot off. With a spring powered rifle, if you don't get the shot off you can't just let it set 'til next time.

I'm torn between:
1. .177 or .22 pellet.
2. The SIG MCX or Winchester MP4 (seems to get good reviews).

I've pretty much squirrel-proofed my feeders, but I've got so many of the darn things that I need to thin the herd a bit.

Suggestions or experience anyone?



Ghost pepper is the best load you can buy, pour feed in a bucket spray with cheap oil in a can mix then pour in powdered cayenne or better ghost pepper. Chilli oil with a very high Skoville number will work. Then use as you alway do. Birds either do not react or simply do not care. BUT Mr Squiirel getting a mouthful will do a triple reverse gainer off the feeder. It may take 3 mouthfuls but silly rat will eventually figure it out. We did this and watched in amazement as they tried 2-3 even 4 times before they understood that they could not eat the "free lunch".

I simply bought pretreated feed.

If you are going to want to do contract work. Be advised springers (be they metal coil or piston), have a double recoil and you need the artillery hold to make they work best, (if they are magnum springers). That said, a multipump pneumatic will handle same as a Firearm. Shoots exactly the same.


Follow through is needed as the speed of the pellet means you can move the POI by twitching until it hits ,so keep aiming after you drop the hammer. A "bloop tube" can be made by the user and is not a silencer in any fashion, but helps with better aiming.

Keep you gun shooting at subsonic speeds choose a heavy pellet. If you are close in, use wad cutters they shoot very straight at near in distances. Subsonic shots will yield less noise, (yep, those suckers do make a lot of noise as they go Mach1). Further out a domed ,(not pointed), or a hollow point yield better accuracy. (pointies are good closer in like wad cutters)

And go for head shots,,,,,always, practice at distance needed and go for dime groups.

Every springer (just about) is pellet sensitive and you can spend a lot of time finding the best pellet, but when you do buy a lots , like 20 tins or as fast as you can afford them. Again multipumps are usually not very pellet sensitive nor do they require the artillery hold.


Artillery hold lightly hold gun rest gun on open palm, or back of hand. The gun needs to be let free to move about. And keep aiming after you pull the trigger. It matters. If you find the right place to put your hand then put painters tape at that spot (removable)a piece for the thumb another for the pinky, hold it then relax that hand. I have a Sheridan Blue Streak, a multi pump from the early 70's 20 caliber. The gent who invented it first designed the pellet in 20 cal. He felt it gave all the best characteristics. And the rigger is a very super light trigger. A lawyers dream or nightmare, depending on if you represent the maker or the person suing you when Johnny shoots he best friends eyeballs out by dropping it. I love it.

There is at least 1 company that sells sampler packs. I just don't remember who they are.

Oh and if you shoot a PCP (pre charged pneumatic, same as a pumper with an on board tank, refilled from a scuba tank), while it is expensive it is wonderful, and expensive , (to me), but with calibers up to nearly 72 (custom), they are lethal, to people or tree rats, or in some states, big cats. One day I will get a Marauder or the newest intro level one. Magazine fed is nice. There is on incredible one that uses the expanded gases to load the next round, so you can take 8 shots in a row, as fast as you pull the trigger. They have, on board built in suppressors or shrouds. And a 30 cal. pellet is quite lethal, as are the 45 and 50 cal.

I am a newb to Air Rifles but have been reading about them for years. I now own a few and only get to shoot once in a while. I do not shoot on my property as if I get a flyer it will go through any fencing around me and still could hurt a kid or a pet. Everything I wrote is from my readings from many good sources.

One last thing, accuracy over speed any day is what is needed. Crosman and many others will say 1250 FPS (then using lead free pellets). Well, they never get to 1250 and if they do, they are not accurate. Everybody who chrony's them, says that. The better rifles and especially the European ones are closer to the truth. Many people will say if the chrony is believed that 1250 is more like 850, or if lucky 950 fps.

But unless there is a lead free ammo restriction Lead Free pellets usually stink. And they wake the dead as they are supersonic. Slower lead pellets properly matched to the gun shoot slower but better and can splatter a bunny's brain box or a squirrel's. They willl flop around a bit, but so will a chicken if you wack its head off.

jest say'n
 
I own many springers and have never needed 20 tins to find good accuracy. Yes some will shoot better, but usually any quality pellet out of a good gun does well.You can fine tune your gun with more selective pellets. However, you are just looking for a pellet gun to kill a few squirrels. If you are not interested in the sport, I would not borrow one. Try a cage or whatever. For those of us that are true dedicated shooters, "StraightShooters" offers a pellet sampler. I know they still have the 177. not sure about the 22.cal. A nice quality pellet for example is the JBExact and they have some samplers for their ammo. Crosman Premiers do really well in a lot of guns. IN THE CARDBOARD BOX ONLY. As sold in the dedicated gun stores like Pyarmyd Air etc.
 
I've been impressed with a .25 cal Benjamin Nitro Venom and 29 grain pellets. Seems very close in power to the 22 short. So far, this year, two coon, one chuck and three ground squirrels, all one shot kills. Longest range, 25 yards.
 
I've got a Benjamin 22 I picked up at Walmart a few years back. It is effective against raccoons so obviously squirrels wouldn't stand a chance.
 
I was going to suggest an older gun. The Crosman 1100. It is a mini shotgun. Uses small shot capsules and will perforate an aluminium can at close ranges. They can also be shot with a solid lead ball. It uses 2 CO2 cartridges

Another option is to get a squirrel proof bird feeder. You can also poison the squirrel. Crush up 100 aspirin into a powder , mix it in with peanut butter. Causes major blood thinning in the squirrel. Causes severe anemia.

A trap is the humane way to go. Need to take them far away or they will return
 
I was going to suggest an older gun. The Crosman 1100. It is a mini shotgun. Uses small shot capsules and will perforate an aluminium can at close ranges. They can also be shot with a solid lead ball. It uses 2 CO2 cartridges

That's an interesting gun! I never knew Crosman made anything like that.

I've actually been rolling my own shotshells for my 1377 and 1322 for a few years. I usually make them out of 4 BBs, receipt paper, and a thin layer of Elmer's glue to hold the BBs in place. The finished product looks like a tiny cigarette. They work alright at close range, and they rip up soda cans pretty well.
 
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