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Perhaps it's time for a new forum rule ... or two

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Old Dog, Feb 6, 2017.

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  1. TarDevil

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    I like helpful suggestions. Granted, I do tire of the "Get a Glock and be done with it" responses. Nothing helpful in that.
    But I've been looking for a .45 carry gun and just never considered a Glock. I've asked questions about a number of other possibilities and If someone had taken the time to courteously explain all the specific and relative benefits of the 30S I would have come to that decision much sooner.
    So no, I wouldn't vote in favor of the OP's rules. Computers have a scroll button.
     
  2. danez71

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    That does happen but is some what rare, IMO.

    Usually the OP has done some homework and know what general they want to go and its a matter of the OP questions doesn't fit the answer some people want to give.


    There are plenty of examples where the OP wants input about 22lr revolver A or 22lr revolver B based on their home work of their likes and needs for general plinking.

    Then 3 knuckle heads will suggest a Ruger Mk? or Browning Buckmark .... then 2 others will start arguing over which is better, the 10/22 vs Marlin 60..... then another will say the Neo is a great bargain, and another will point out that the 22lr is not a self defense round and they should get an AR, a 12ga, or...... a plastic wonder 9/40striker pistol !!!1!!1!!!1
     
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  3. danez71

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    dupe
     
  4. rskent

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    No If you are not here for other peoples ideas, why are you here?
     
  5. berettaprofessor

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    This^^^. If I want to know about brand x, and post a question asking about brand x, then I give myself free permission to skip over responses about brand Y. Except that I usually at least skim them because I sometimes accidentally learn things.
     
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  6. MistWolf

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    This is the first or second time I've seen a car example actually work in a gun forum.

    The last example "I've had good luck with my AWD mini van" it's a good way to handle suggesting something different, but unfortunately, is often met with "Here come the mini van fanbois. A station wagon is just as good. You don't need to pay extra for a mini van!"

    There are some posts that's best to just scroll past. I bet I've written my share of those
     
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  7. Ramey

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    Why do people say they lost their guns in a boating accident?
     
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  8. WestKentucky

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    Gun grabbing politicians like the thought of armed fish more than they like the thought of armed citizens.
     
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  9. FROGO207

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    I think we all come here to learn something (at least I often do), cuss and discuss with like minded individuals, or be helpful to others about something we each have a specialty of. Some threads do veer off the rails and I also will try to steer them back if it does happen if possible. There is enough moderation already and those guys appear to have about as much fun as herding a group of cats. I also can tune out the responses that are not relevant without getting TOO annoyed most times with the scroll key:scrutiny:. GOD--- I am starting to sound like my father! :what::neener: Oh well.:)
     
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  10. mjsdwash

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    Heres an idea, make this a new subforum... great place to vent, and make jokes that are harder to tell are jokes in other areas.
     
  11. bikerdoc

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    2 things,
    1 the report button gets action,
    I would not infract an of topic post, it might get deleted and/or you might get a pm or I might just jump in the thread and say "guys let us get back on track." Or it it might be it just you and no action is taken.
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    2 Nothing wrong with any member posting a polite " dude the OP is talking about X, not Y. "
    Or put those that pluck your last nerve on your ignore list.
    I think Sam made some relevent points.
    I dont own a striker fired pistol so I absolutely stay out of those threads, but I do know a troll or fanboy when I see one and have no problem deleting a reported off topic post with no value. That is not to say alternative insights into different models or problem solving techniques are off topic. It is complicated.
     
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  12. PabloJ

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    Terrible idea. Suggesting something better is nice way of opening peoples minds. I have a better idea if you don't like a post don't read it.
     
  13. Tirod

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    Of course, when dealing with topics, we often come to the forum with the impression we will get some specific detailed info that highlights the distinct differences we want to know more about.

    "Which is better for home defense, the Garand or M1A?" The problem with that in a very insular forum is the "hive mind" which only want's to look at it from that specific narrow viewpoint. No other alternative options could lead the OP to choosing one or the other - when something else may be better.

    The problem comes up with somebody spouts off with "AR Pistols Rule!" and there is no supporting reasons to go with it. What we are dealing with there is the posters inability to articulate - we brush them off even tho there may be some very good things to consider.

    Lets not forget that inside that hive mind of comfort, similar viewpoints don't accept ideas from outside well. If that were to be applied to real life, our troops would still be equipped with Garands and 1911's - it would be no different than Lincoln's Generals ignoring the lever action and it's superior firepower. Handing out single rounds in the face of the Zulu because "it's right and proper" might feel comfortable but we do know that it doesn't work, right?

    On some forums there would be a stout defense of the practice based on tradition and doing things the way our grandfathers did it. The reality is that if we handed them an AK with chest harness they would come back in half an hour begging for more. The American natives sure did in their day transitioning from stone pointed arrows to horseback and lever guns - as do almost all other peoples who confront more modern technology. Seeing the actual performance is it's own sales pitch.

    Do we need to shoot the messenger just because they present something out of our experience that challenges our preconceptions? Eugene Stoner sure did. Look at his legacy now. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
     
  14. tarosean

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 100%
     
  15. Robert

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    We had an "Off Topic" forum years ago. It went... poorly.
     
  16. redneck2

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    There is. It's called Facebook
     
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  17. X-Rap

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    Then of course there is the trollish OP who will open his post by declaring he has no interest in "toy guns from Mattel", "plastic Tupperware" or anything not conceived by " JOHN MOSES BROWNING".
     
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  18. TarDevil

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    The wooden boat forum I previously frequented does...and it's a mess
     
  19. TomJ

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    Old Dog,
    When I got back into shooting a couple of years ago after a 20 year hiatus, the gun industry had obviously changed. The issue I had was that I didn't know what I didn't know and had no idea what questions to even ask when looking at semi automatics. Constructive suggestions to consider options I was not aware of were helpful. I do agree with you in regards to the tone some posters have. I'll never understand someone who gets upset because someone that they'll never meet chose to buy a gun that's different than what they prefer. If that's the worse problem I have, I've had a pretty good day.
    Tom
     
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  20. CLP

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    a picture says a thousand words
     

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  21. mjsdwash

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    I seem to remember that.
     
  22. Theohazard

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    I agree with the others that this is a bad idea. Arizona Mike had the perfect example of a situation where he wasn't aware a gun existed, so someone mentioning it was very helpful. I'll go one step further and say that when someone says stuff like (just for example), "I don't want any plastic guns," or, "I don't want a gun without a safety," they might have valid reasons for those types of preferences, or they might have those preferences out of ignorance.

    Sure, if they don't like polymer frames or they prefer to have a safety, that's totally fine. But what if they're under the mistaken assumption that polymer frames aren't durable, or that it's unsafe to carry a handgun that doesn't have a thumb safety? Both of those things aren't necessarily true, and if someone digs deeper to find out why the OP has these preferences, he may end up educating him.
     
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  23. berettaprofessor

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    I see absolutely no reason that I was dragged into this conversation and referred to as a Troll....;)
     
  24. Squire Western

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    Blessings! You are a Jayhawk Professor, never a gun troll! Lift up your heart! :D
     
  25. wojownik

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    I don't see the need for new rules to address the OP's question. I'm not in favor of "legislating" social behavior, aside from the extreme stuff. Mods or even regular members can bring a thread back on topic.

    Yeah, the fanboy stuff wears thing very quickly. But quite often, the sideline comment is useful info. My bug is when someone drags a thread completely off topic. No new rules needed there. Other members or mods can bring the thread back on course, a mod can close thread, and/or a mod can delete the offending post...

    On the whole, THR is a paradise compared to some of the other forums out there. A veritable oasis in a sea of ... err, well that would be using a word that is a rule violation.
     
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