Personal firearms that have never had a malfunction

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  1. guyfromohio

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    I don't keep malfunctioning firearms save a few"collectibles" (and I use the term loosely as they pertain to my collection). I have a DW VBOB and Colt 1991 that took a few hundred rounds to work the kinks out, so I can't make 100% claim, but I also have an ECO and Colt Lightweight Commander with never a single malfunction. My PPK is finicky as well, but I keep it. These are just guns that I enjoy, not depend on.

    My two pistols with the highest round counts are a CZ PCR and Sig P239. Thousands of rounds without ever an single failure.
     
  2. SVTOhio

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    I hear you there. My 10/22 for my first gun and one that will be passed on when I'm gone.
     
  3. FROGO207

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    FWIW ANY firearm will malfunction if shot enough to wear it out.:p I have a LOT of them that are reliable enough for me. For example I have a pair of SS Ruger MKII bull barrel pistols that I soot a LOT. They have been tuned for postal competition. I would guess that soon after reaching the 3/4 million round count between them that they both started to misfire. The cause was found to be that the firing pins had peened at the rear making them too wide to move forward in the bolt channel and strike the rim of the ammo deep enough due to use use and needed to be replaced. Then both were once again 100% reliable with QUALITY ammo. A firearm that has not shown itself to shoot 90% of a sample of ammo run through it is either fixed so it will or I get rid of it with full disclosure to buyer. Now an exception. I have a Remington 7400 in 308 that will not fire a 5 round MAG without a failure to fire. It has even gone to a couple good gunsmiths and they could not figure it out. First round fires OK. After that it will strip and load a round OK but not always reset and cock. That is now a single shot semiauto.:banghead: It is a 1/2 MOA rifle with factory Core Loct ammo so I still keep it.;)
     
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    Star M30 9mm. Ugly, not finely finished, all steel and a bit heavy. Will handle anything 9mm with ease. Also had a Walther P4 with similar reliability but it was not very accurate.
     
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    I had both those same guns (Star M30 and a Walther P4), a number of years ago. I felt the M30 was built like a tank; definitely designed from the ground up as a heavy duty service pistol. Extremely reliable and fairly well built, the only problem I had with it was in finding spare magazines and parts. The Walther P4 owed much of it's heritage to the P38, along with a number of design improvements over the original to make it more viable as a military/law enforcement sidearm. Another reliable performer and with it's single stack magazine configuration quite easy and comfortable to shoot.
     
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    Windham WW15, #4500+ no failures, including handloads.

    Colt Trooper II, Honestly with tac training ive lost count, but its in the high thousands- zero failures.

    G4 G19 #2800 as of yesterday and no failures.
     
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    Sorry, got off topic.
     
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    My Glock 17. Zero failures, FTF, FTE, KB, ND, AD. It is literally.......Perfection :)
     
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    S&W model 10. Always works, if I remember to load it.
     
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    Simonov 1954 tula arsenal SKS 2,000 rounds
    Springfield Armory 1945 M1 Garand 140 rounds since I purchased and rebarreled it.
    Springfield Armory M1A National Match 635 rounds.
    Springfield Armory Stainless Loaded .45ACP 4,000 rounds
    HK P30L V3 6,000 rounds (had 1 squib but the gun can't be blamed for that)
    HK45 V3 2,600 rounds
    Norinco M305 (M14) 360 rounds
     
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  11. Warp

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    How many rounds?
     
  12. redneck2

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    Somewhere back years ago there was a thread about running a pistol 1,000 rounds with no malfunctions. Any hiccup no matter the cause disqualified the pistol.

    IIRC, only maybe +/- 10% made it.

    I have a G20 and WW II vintage 1911 that I think I'd put into that competition.
     
  13. Warp

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    That would be a pretty disappointing success rate IMO.

    My top-use firearms, of the ones where I have been tracking (I didn't used to) are at:
    *3,439 rounds completely flawless
    *2,400 rounds with a single FTRTB in the first 150 rounds, so about 2,250 consecutive flawless rounds and counting
    *815 rounds completely flawless
    *2,950 rounds with one FTFeed that was 100% the fault of a known-questionable magazine + failures to fire when a paste lube was used and allowed to congeal in cold weather (which I will no longer use)
    *610 rounds completely flawless

    I have a couple with more rounds than that and very very few malfunctions, but no number tracking.

    The 2,950 example went almost all of those 2,950 with nothing besides the single feeding issue with a known-questionable magazine that had been relegated to only being used at the range.

    That would certainly help to buoy a 10% success rate, eh?
     
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    When I was stationed in Germany, a lifetime ago, I spent a lot of time in Grafenwohr, on range 80. This was in 1969-70 and the M-60 tank crews still carried M-3A1s, although they almost never used them for anything. I had one with me, which I put thousands of rounds through, literally, at uncle Sam's expense. I was 45 Bravo, which is small arms repair. I had access to all the 45 ammo I wanted, compliments of the Armored units. They would bring anything to our Van, to speed up repairs on their two badly flawed machine guns, the M-73 and the M-85. I got booze, cigs, and lots of .45 ammo.

    Long story short, I cannot remember that M-3 ever malfunctioning, for any reason...EVER. I literally put thousands of rounds through it. I never cleaned it. I had three mags, which worked properly and I was told that those mags were worth their weight in gold. At some point I discovered that the extractor tip had broken off and presumably sailed down range. There was an ugly gouge in the bore, which gave rise to that theory.

    The gun didn't seem to care. As a straight blow back, it just kept right on chugging along. And the M-3A1 gets my vote as the most reliable gun I ever fired. Just wish I could own one..
     
  15. Ignition Override

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    The OP never specified a minimum rd. count.

    The constant malfunctions (modern ammo) with my nice "Made in W. Germany" Walther PPK/S were solved by a better Wolff spring.
    In stark contrast, Warsaw Pact 9x18 guns typically are among the most reliable semi-autos ever designed.

    Conclusion: they don't require 10,000 rds. to demonstrate their quality.
    Neither do Saiga rifles imported (before Obama's ban) from Russia with all-original components. That's also why Arsenal 'AKs' use Saigas as the foundation.
     
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    Any malfunctions were my fault or explainable and fixable.

    If not, I won't own the firearm.

    Lateck,
     
  17. Warp

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    Well, it ought to be obvious that round count is critical to this having any meaning whatsoever. OP does say


     
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    Winchester 94 several versions 30-30 .375 and a 38-??
    never quit or ftf/fte Yea John Browning
     
  19. DesertVet

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    Glock 19 Gen 2 ........ No malfunction in 23 years of quarterly qualifications.
     
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    My PM has fired 1500 rounds with no issues at all.
     
  21. tactikel

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    S&W 28-2 well over 15K rounds never a failure of any type.
    1903-A3 over 4K rounds plus whatever Uncle Sam put thru her, always goes Bang.
     
  22. General Geoff

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    Smith & Wesson 610 revolver. I've put about 3,000 rounds through it over the course of 8 years (about 2500 rounds of .40S&W and 500 rounds of 10mm auto). Zero malfunctions.

    Springfield Armory M1A. ~2,000 rounds through it over the course of 10 years. Haven't been shooting it much lately due to higher ammo costs. Zero malfunctions of any kind.

    I have a brand new in box Ruger 10/22, but I haven't fired it so it couldn't have any malfunctions yet.

    Every other firearm I own or have owned has had at least one malfunction, usually ammunition related (failure to fire).
     
  23. HoosierQ

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    I have a Glock 17 that I purchased in 1991 and it's never malfunctioned even once.
     
  24. ny32182

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    As mentioned, if you have "never had a malfunction", you just haven't shot it enough.

    Any pistol I've ever shot more than 30k rounds has worn out or broken multiple parts (usually springs) often well before reaching 30k.

    If it is a gun you really need to run, you should change out the springs and other small parts on a schedule.

    Otherwise, if you shoot the gun regularly, eventually a spring will go, and usually it won't really give you any warning before it does. Personally I wouldn't carry a gun that gets shot a lot with no maintenance done for this reason.

    Semi auto rifles are running much hotter than pistols, and key parts like bolts and extractors are under much more stress than anything in a pistol. They will break eventually. Change parts on a schedule, or keep a low round count example for carry or whatnot.
     
  25. 460Shooter

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    Wilson/Beretta 92 Brig Tac
    Ruger SP101
    S&W 686+
    S&W 460V

    Not sure on round counts
     
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